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By the Body of the Earth (1978)
Evolution_II
Life_without_Death
Man_after_man
My_Burning_Heart
Notebooks_of_an_Apocalypse_Vol_1
Notebooks_of_an_Apocalypse_Vol_2
On_the_Way_to_Supermanhood (1986)
Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness (1974)
The Great Sense - Sri Aurobindo And The Future Of The Earth

Mother - A trilogy (1977)
  Mother or The Divine Materialism (1980)
  The New Species (1982)
  The Mutation of Death (1987)

The_Mind_of_the_Cells (1982)
The_Revolt_of_the_Earth

Mothers Agenda (1951-1973)
Agenda Vol 1a
Agenda Vol 2
Agenda Vol 3
Agenda Vol 4
Agenda Vol 5
Agenda Vol 6
Agenda Vol 7
Agenda Vol 8
Agenda Vol 9
Agenda Vol 10
Agenda Vol 11
Agenda Vol 12
Agenda Vol 13



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1.00_-_INTRODUCTION
1.00_-_PREFACE
1.01_-_An_Accomplished_Westerner
1.02_-_The_Eternal_Law
1.03_-_The_End_of_the_Intellect
1.04_-_The_Silent_Mind
1.05_-_Consciousness
1.06_-_Quieting_the_Vital
1.07_-_The_Psychic_Center
1.08_-_Independence_from_the_Physical
1.09_-_Sleep_and_Death
1.10_-_The_Revolutionary_Yogi
1.11_-_Oneness
1.12_-_The_Superconscient
1.13_-_Under_the_Auspices_of_the_Gods
1.14_-_The_Secret
1.15_-_The_Supramental_Consciousness
1.16_-_Man,_A_Transitional_Being
1.17_-_The_Transformation
Agenda_Vol_1
Agenda_Vol_10
Agenda_Vol_11
Agenda_Vol_12
Agenda_Vol_2
Agenda_Vol_3
Agenda_Vol_4
Agenda_Vol_5
Agenda_Vol_6
Agenda_Vol_7
Agenda_Vol_8
Agenda_Vol_9
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1:All is in God's hands; whatever He makes us do, that we shall do. ~ The Mother, Agenda Vol 3 Satprem,
2:I believe that it is his message; all the rest are the preparations, but Savitri is the message. ~ The Mother, In 1963 to Satprem (MA 1963:86),
3:The best relief for the brain, he writes in one of them, is when the thinking takes place outside the body and above the head (or in space or at other levels but still outside the body). At any rate it was so in my case; for as soon as that happened there was an immense relief; I have felt body strain since then but never any kind of brain fatigue. ~ Satprem, Sri Aurobindo Or The Adventure of Consciousness 325,
4:We do not fight against any creed, any religion. We do not fight against any form of government. We do not fight against any caste, any social class. We do not fight against any nation or civilisation. We are fighting division, unconsciousness, ignorance, inertia and falsehood. We are endeavouring to establish upon earth union, knowledge, consciousness, truth; and we fight whatever opposes the advent of this new creation of Light, Peace, Truth and Love. ~ The Mother, Agenda Vol 6 Satprem,
5:You are here now, I mean on earth, because you once chose to be - you don't remember it, but I know; that's why you are here. Well, you must stand up to the task. You must make an effort, you must conquer pettiness and limitations, and above all tell the ego: your time is over. We want a race without ego, with the divine consciousness in place of the ego. That's what we want: the divine consciousness, which will enable the race to develop and the superman to be born. ~ The Mother, Agenda Vol 13 Satprem,
6:Perfection is one way to approach the Divine; Unity is anotheR But Perfection is a global approach: all is there and all is as it should be-that is to say, the perfect expression of the Divine (you can't even say 'of His Will,' because that still implies something apart, something emanating from Him!). It could be put like this (but it brings it down considerably): He is what He is and exactly as He wants to be. The 'exactly as He wants to be' takes us down quite a few steps, but it still gives an idea of what I mean by 'perfection'! ~ The Mother, Agenda Vol 02 Satprem,
7:I feel all kinds of.... Yes, yes, of course, it's inevitable. But you must call in tranquillity, that's the only thing.... It keeps coming and coming from all sides; but when you feel things going badly, when you're uneasy or thoroughly upset, you must remember to call in tranquillity. But it's about you, directed against you, all sorts of suggestions that make me.... That want to cut you off from me. Yes, I know perfectly well. It's like that for everybody, not just for you. We must keep going right to the end, that's all - there's nothing else to do. January 31, 1961 ~ The Mother, Agenda Vol 4 Satprem,
8:I am not a philosopher, I am not a scholar, I am not a savant, and I declare it very loudly: neither a philosopher nor a scholar nor a savant. And no pretension. Nor a littérateur, nor an artist - I am nothing at all. I am truly convinced of this. And it's absolutely unimportant - that's perfection for human beings. There is no greater joy than to know that you can do nothing and are absolutely helpless, that you're not the one who does, and that what little is done - little or big, it doesn't matter - is done by the Lord; and the responsibility is fully His. That makes you happy. With that, you are happy. Voilà. ~ The Mother, Agenda Vol 5 Satprem,
9:Therefore, we can attain the overmental consciousness in many different ways: through religious passion, through poetic, intellectual, artistic, or heroic zeal, or through anything that helps man to exceed himself. - Sri Aurobindo assigned a special place to art, which he considered one of the major means of spiritual progress. Unfortunately, artists and creators too often have a considerable ego standing in the way, which is their main difficulty. The religious man, who has worked to dissolve his ego, finds it easier, but he rarely attains universality through his own individual efforts, leaping instead beyond the individual without bothering to develop all the intermediate rungs of the personal consciousness, and when he reaches the top he no longer has a ladder to come down, or he does not want to come down, or there is no individual self left to express what he sees, or else his old individual self tries its best to express his new consciousness, provided he feels the need to express anything at all. ~ Satprem,
10:If we are religious-minded, perhaps we will see the gods who inhabit this world. Beings, forces, sounds, lights, and rhythms are just so many true forms of the same indefinable, but not unknowable, Essence we call God; we have spoken of God, and made temples, laws or poems to try to capture the one little pulsation filling us with sunshine, but it is free as the wind on foam-flecked shores. We may also enter the world of music, which in fact is not different from the others but a special extension of this same, great inexpressible Vibration. If once, only once, even for a few moments in a lifetime, we can hear that Music, that Joy singing above, we will know what Beethoven and Bach heard; we will know what God is because we will have heard God. We will probably not say anything grandiose; we will just know that That exists, whereupon all the suffering in the world will seem redeemed. At the extreme summit of the overmind, there only remain great waves of multi-hued light, says the Mother, the play of spiritual forces, which later translate - sometimes much later - into new ideas, social changes, or earthly events, after crossing one by one all the layers of consciousness and suffering a considerable distortion and loss of light... ~ Satprem, Sri Aurobindo Or The Adventure Of Consciousness ,
11:For this is the other face of the psychic: not only is it joy and sweetness, but also quiet strength, as if it were forever above every possible tragedy - an invulnerable master. In this case, too, the details of a scene can be indelibly engraved. But what passes on to the next life is not so much the details as the essence of the scene: we will be struck by certain repetitive patterns of events or deadlocked situations that have an air of déjà vu and seem surrounded by an aura of fatality - for what has not been overcome in the past returns again and again, each time with a slightly different appearance, but basically always identical, until we confront the old knot and untie it. Such is the law of inner progress. Generally, however, the memory of actual physical circumstances does not remain, because, although our small surface consciousness makes much of them, they are, after all, of little significance. There is even a spontaneous mechanism that erases the profusion of useless past memories, just as those of the present life soon become eradicated. If we glance behind us, without thinking, what is actually left of our present life? A nebulous mass with perhaps two or three outstanding images; all the rest is blotted out. This is likewise the case for the soul and its past lives. ~ Satprem, Sri Aurobindo Or The Adventure Of Consciousness ,
12:Who could have thought that this tanned young man with gentle, dreamy eyes, long wavy hair parted in the middle and falling to the neck, clad in a common coarse Ahmedabad dhoti, a close-fitting Indian jacket, and old-fashioned slippers with upturned toes, and whose face was slightly marked with smallpox, was no other than Mister Aurobindo Ghose, living treasure of French, Latin and Greek?" Actually, Sri Aurobindo was not yet through with books; the Western momentum was still there; he devoured books ordered from Bombay and Calcutta by the case. "Aurobindo would sit at his desk," his Bengali teacher continues, "and read by the light of an oil lamp till one in the morning, oblivious of the intolerable mosquito bites. I would see him seated there in the same posture for hours on end, his eyes fixed on his book, like a yogi lost in the contemplation of the Divine, unaware of all that went on around him. Even if the house had caught fire, it would not have broken this concentration." He read English, Russian, German, and French novels, but also, in ever larger numbers, the sacred books of India, the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Ramayana, although he had never been in a temple except as an observer. "Once, having returned from the College," one of his friends recalls, "Sri Aurobindo sat down, picked up a book at random and started to read, while Z and some friends began a noisy game of chess. After half an hour, he put the book down and took a cup of tea. We had already seen him do this many times and were waiting eagerly for a chance to verify whether he read the books from cover to cover or only scanned a few pages here and there. Soon the test began. Z opened the book, read a line aloud and asked Sri Aurobindo to recite what followed. Sri Aurobindo concentrated for a moment, and then repeated the entire page without a single mistake. If he could read a hundred pages in half an hour, no wonder he could go through a case of books in such an incredibly short time." But Sri Aurobindo did not stop at the translations of the sacred texts; he began to study Sanskrit, which, typically, he learned by himself. When a subject was known to be difficult or impossible, he would refuse to take anyone's word for it, whether he were a grammarian, pandit, or clergyman, and would insist upon trying it himself. The method seemed to have some merit, for not only did he learn Sanskrit, but a few years later he discovered the lost meaning of the Veda. ~ Satprem, Sri Aurobindo Or The Adventure of Consciousness ,

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   19 Integral Yoga


   19 Satprem
   11 The Mother


   19 Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness
   11 The Mothers Agenda
   4 Agenda Vol 1


0.01_-_Introduction, #Agenda Vol 1, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  Joyous Agenda!
  Satprem
  Nandanam

0.05_-_1955, #Agenda Vol 1, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  March 26, 1955
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, March 26, 1955
  --
  April 4, 1955
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, April 4, 1955
  --
  Mother, this is not a vital desire seeking to divert me from the sadhana, for my life has no other meaning than to seek the divine, but it seems to be the only solution that could bring about some
  16For a long time, Satprem took care of the correspondence with the outside, along with Pavitra not to mention editing the Ashram Bulletin as well as Mother's writings and talks translating Sri Aurobindo's works Unto French, and conducting classes at the Ashram's 'International Centre of Education.'
  17Every evening at the Playground, the disciples passed before Mother one by one to receive symbolically some food.
  --
  
  19An American artist, an old friend of D.H. Lawrence, and Satprem's friend.
  
  --
  June 9, 1955
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, June 9, 1955
  --
  
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, September 3, 1955
  --
  September 15, 1955
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, September 15, 1955
  --
  October (?) 1955
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  October 1955
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Bangalore

0.06_-_1956, #Agenda Vol 1, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  January (?) 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  Undated 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  January (?) 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  Undated 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  
  21Satprem was arrested by the Gestapo in Bordeaux in 1943 for resisting the German occupation. He was later sent to
  Buchenwald and Mauthausen.
  --
  Undated 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  Undated 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  April 4, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, April 4, 1956
  --
  April 20, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, April 20, 1956
  --
  
  28A friend of Satprem's who died insane in a Japanese hospital in India
  
  --
  Undated 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry
  --
  September 14, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Hyderabad, September 14, 1956
  --
  October 28, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, October 28, 1956
  --
  November 22, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, November 22, 1956
  --
  December 12, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, December 12, 1956
  --
  December 26, 1956
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, December 26, 1956

0.07_-_1957, #Agenda Vol 1, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  January 18, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, January 18, 1957
  --
  March 3, 1957
  (Letter from Mother to Satprem)
  3.3.57
  I name you Satprem (true love) for it is only when you awaken to divine love that you will feel that you love.
  
  --
  April 9, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, April 9, 1957
  --
  
  That is the situation, Mother. I feel my unworthiness profoundly. I am the opposite of Satprem, unable to love and to give myself. Everything in me is sealed tight.
  
  --
  38The following conversation was noted from memory. At this time the conversations were not yet tape-recorded, and
  Satprem, alas, felt it proper to eliminate all personal issues so that only the 'teaching' would remain. The 'serious decision' in question concerns leaving the Ashram.
  
  --
  April 22, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, April 22, 1957
  --
  Your child,
  Signed: Satprem
  
  --
  July 18, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, July 18, 1957
  --
  Your child,
  Signed: Satprem
  
  Undated 1957
  (Letter from Mother to Satprem)
  Thursday
  --
  October 8, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, October 8, 1957
  --
  Your child,
  Signed: Satprem
  (Mother's reply)
  --
  October 18, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, October 18, 1957
  --
  Your child,
  Signed: Satprem
  
  --
  
  46This first Sutra was ultimately destined to become the epigraph to Satprem's first novel, L'Orpailleur.
  
  --
  December 13, 1957
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Pondicherry, December 13, 1957
  --
  Your child,
  Signed. Satprem
  
  --
  Undated 1957
  (Note from Mother to Satprem)
  It is within oneself that one finds the Pretentaine.47
  
  47Pretentaine: name of the boat on which Satprem wanted to sail around the world alone.
  

1.00_-_INTRODUCTION, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.00_-_PREFACE, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga
  --
  harmony and beauty, compared to which our most superb scientific discoveries are like the roughcasts of an apprentice.
  Satprem Pondicherry,
  January 27, 1970

1.01_-_An_Accomplished_Westerner, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.02_-_The_Eternal_Law, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.03_-_The_End_of_the_Intellect, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.04_-_The_Silent_Mind, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.05_-_Consciousness, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.06_-_Quieting_the_Vital, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.07_-_The_Psychic_Center, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.08_-_Independence_from_the_Physical, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.09_-_Sleep_and_Death, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.10_-_The_Revolutionary_Yogi, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.11_-_Oneness, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.12_-_The_Superconscient, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.13_-_Under_the_Auspices_of_the_Gods, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.14_-_The_Secret, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.15_-_The_Supramental_Consciousness, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.16_-_Man,_A_Transitional_Being, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga

1.17_-_The_Transformation, #Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness, #Satprem, #Integral Yoga
  class:chapter
  author class:Satprem
  subject class:Integral Yoga
  --
  
  Mother's own work in the body refer to Mother's Agenda (her own recorded account to Satprem from 1951 to 1973).
  

Agenda_Vol_10, #The Mothers Agenda, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  author class:The Mother
  class:Satprem
  
  --
   Institut de Recherches volutives, Paris. 1981
  Rendered into English under the direction of Satprem
  
  --
  So, a happy new year, mon petit!
  (Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mother's knees)
  --
  January 4, 1969
  (Mother gives roses to Satprem, then breathes in the smell of a bunch of small yellow flowers4 near
  her.)
  --
  
  6At that moment, Satprem also thought that something similar must have taken place at the time of the hominids, a descent
  similar to this one, so that humans now regard their mental acquisition as the blossoming and natural fruit of their own
  --
  ***
  (Towards the end, the conversation refers to the coming visit of Satprem's mother.)
  When is your mother arriving?
  --
  especially... as I said, a precision and a certainty that have entered their way of thinking.
  (before leaving, Satprem lays
  his forehead on Mother's knees)
  --
  ***
  (After Satprem has left, Mother says a few words to Sujata.)
  Since it came, I've been seeing people's eyes more clearly - in the past too, I used to see their eyes, but
  --
  A great Peace has come down. Did you feel that?...
  (Satprem:) Yes.
  19During the meditation, Sujata noticed that Mother opened her eyes for a moment, and according to her, they were
  --
  I find it very comfortable!
  (Satprem lays his head
  on Mother's knees, then Mother
  --
  her). There was positively something to be done... and you'll see, once you've left, I'll find it again! I
  remember having said, "Ah, I will do this on Wednesday with Satprem."
  Oh, maybe it's here (Mother looks at her cluttered table), there's a heap of letters... frightening!
  --
  It's interesting. It will grow clearer and clearer.
  20Eleven years later, in February 1980, Satprem will complete his Mind of the Cells.
  
  --
  (By some kindness of fate, the recording of the beginning of this conversation was preserved, though
  Satprem normally erased all those exchanges or the little facts that did not seem to have "historical"
  interest. For amusement we reproduce here these fragments....)
  --
  
  (Satprem:) Not more than one?... Maybe two?
  Two will be a lot to eat.
  --
  early?
  (Satprem:) She does it at 5 in the morning!
  I get up at 4:30.
  --
  They come from Germany - I got them yesterday.
  Well! Now to you [Satprem], do you have something?
  There are the proofs of the Bulletin.
  --
  You might ask Nolini what he thinks about it?22
  (Satprem shows the last proofs)
  
  --
  it's come down a few...
  (Satprem reads:) "In Auroville, people will not earn money; they won't work to earn money..."
  It's already come down to here (gesture at ground level).
  --
  (Bluebeard... I forget, I only know what I remembered this morning.) One day, we did a tableau vivant,
  in several tableaux, with the story of Bluebeard who cut off his wives' heads.... (To Satprem:) That's
  how the story went, isn't it?... (Laughter) I only remember this morning, I don't recall the story....
  --
  (to Sujata, after
  Satprem has left)
  
  --
  February 12, 1969
  (A note from Satprem to Mother)
  Sweet Mother,
  --
  Here, this is it:
  (Mother holds out to Satprem
  a white hibiscus, "Divine Grace")
  --
  1968) appears to have acted as a trigger, for it was followed by Amrita's, then Pavitra's (on May 16), then Satyakarma's
  (Mother's cashier).... This calls to mind Satprem's vision of Sri Aurobindo, several of whose toes had been cut off, that is to
  say, several people. See Agenda VIII of July 5, 1967.
  --
  Do you have any news?
  (Satprem presents to Mother the manuscript of By the Body of the Earth or the Sannyasin, which he is
  about to send to Paris. Mother's remarks have not been kept.)
  --
  Your mother is fine.... She is very concentrated.
  (Mother hands to Satprem the message she has given for February 21, her ninety-first birthday
  anniversary:)
  --
  (Mother holds out
  a note to Satprem)
  
  --
  Did you have something to say?
  (Satprem presents to Mother the manuscript of The Synthesis of Yoga before sending it to a new
  publisher in France:)
  --
  What's new?
  (Satprem remains silent,
  contemplating Nolini's "very nice")
  --
  Nothing.
  There's a line from my mother. [Satprem reads a letter relating his mother's sudden cure after a
  cancer had been feared: "My condition suddenly became normal again, and I didn't doubt
  --
  decomposition), the only thing would be for it to admit a force from the FUTURE....'
  Satprem, do you remember these words? You conveyed them from Mother to me on 26
  November '68, the day I sent you that article on the crisis of Christianity. I went on: 'There
  --
  CONSCIOUSNESS, the POWER, the SUPRANATURAL, the SUPRAHUMAN.....
  'Satprem, I left the room and went away... for a walk in the countryside.... What is going to
  happen to me? Will they put me on trial? Will they declare me insane, heretic? I am waiting.
  --
  ADDENDUM
  (Extracts from a letter from Satprem to P.L., following the conversation of November 2, 1968, in which
  Mother spoke about the future of Christianity. See Agenda IX under that date.)
  --
  April 2, 1969
  (Since the previous year, Satprem had complained of headaches and eyeaches, which, strangely, would
  come during the night. Recently, Mother ordered him to stop reading and writing for a month.)
  --
  (Then Mother records her translation of a few excerpts from "Savitri," which are to be set to music.
  Satprem suddenly notices that a corner of Mother's left eye is slightly bloodshot.)
  The
  --
  37The first volume of The Synthesis of Yoga will appear in France in 1972, coincidentally in April, exactly three years later.
  38As a curiosity, we publish in addendum the letter Satprem wrote to this editor of Fayard publishers before receiving her
  letter about Zen and Sri Aurobindo.
  --
  So I've put the same thing here:
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  ADDENDUM
  (We publish here the letter Satprem wrote to the editor of Fayard publishers, as we find it touches - or
  touched - on a difficulty quite central to the Western mind. Since 1969, things have much changed.)
  --
  41K's mother is a friend of P.L.'s. Both mother and son stay at the Ashram.
  42Satprem later learnt that the boy had seen the Pope two or three times in audiences (when he lived in Rome, where P.L.
  was looking after him).
  --
  It's good.
  (Satprem:) He would like to put them in touch with the Ashram...?
  All aren't ready.
  --
  I'll do all I can.
  (To Satprem:) Oh, you know, I asked this Consciousness what was needed to receive it without
  distorting it, and it answered me (Mother reads out a note):
  --
  shadow."
  (Satprem:) Without casting a shadow, yes.
  That's what it replied.
  (F.B.:) That is, forgetting oneself completely?
  (Satprem:) Being totally transparent.
  But that's all the way up! (Mother laughs)
  (To Satprem:) He's leaving for Bombay to do some good work.
  (F.B.:) I hope so.
  --
  
  (To Satprem:) Do you want "patience"?
  Yes, Mother!
  --
  
  (then Satprem reads out
  Mother's translation)
  --
  (Mother looks for the passage,
  which Satprem reads out:)
  
  --
  That's it! And he says that the mind also stops.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  I don't know why, but I very strongly said to myself that I absolutely had to show you this.
  (Satprem reads out the translation)
  
  --
  In Canada, lots of people have made contact with this Consciousness. I receive surprising letters.
  (Satprem gets up to leave)
  
  --
  April 23, 1969
  (Mother received Satprem at 11 instead of 10.)
  It's frightful, mon petit!... Oh, there were lots of amusing things to tell you, but it's no fun, we're too
  --
  What about you? How are you?
  [Satprem complains about his eyes]... Otherwise I am fine, Mother.
  But don't work too much! (Laughing) I preach laziness!
  --
  tension, and it eases up. Now it's like that for all the cells. There, enough chatter for now!
  (Satprem gets up)
  
  --
  
  (Mother gives soup packets to Satprem) Yesterday I received lots of soups, and I thought, "Well, it has
  come just for him!" (Mother laughs) That's how it is! And for VERY SMALL things, mon petit,
  --
  disappear, it has to remember. It's the only thing, it's analogous to you. But the Consciousness moves
  about (Mother makes a wavy gesture, pointing to Satprem's body), I see it move about, always
  unhindered - unhindered, like something natural. You understand, it's like something natural: it goes
  --
  (Regarding a photograph that was taken just before Pavitra's coffin was closed and lowered into
  the ground. Satprem was standing near the coffin, to Pavitra's right.)
  No news? Nothing from P.L.?
  No, Mother... There's this [Satprem holds out an envelope].
  What is it?
  --
  there was something like this within (gesture to the heart, like an emotion), I don't know, it was almost
  like a tenderness, and he was almost happy I can't explain what it is, he was like this: "Oh! Satprem..."
  He was really very pleased.
  --
  says something regarding the work, he has his remark to make (I've noticed that), but there, it was very
  strong, almost like an "Oh!" of joy, you understand: "Oh! Satprem." So I thought, "It's good, since it
  really pleased him."
  --
  when it's in contact with suffering, people, miseries, difficulties, why, why? Why... why?
  (Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mother's feet)
  --
  shows he remains conscious. That's all.
  81Satprem was still under the illusion that he could "say" something.
  
  As for me, I am continuing... it's not easy That's all. So I can listen to this.
  (Satprem reads out)
  
  --
  How are your nights?... The same? Still the same?
  (Satprem grimaces)
  
  --
  
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem proposes to publish in "Notes on the Way" the text of the last conversation,
  of May 31, about the glorified body "Visible to all.")
  --
  87As a matter of fact, at the end of the previous conversation, Mother remained "gazing" for a very long time with an
  expression that had to be seen to be believed, and Satprem felt something like a cataract of luminous power coming down.
  
  --
  June 25, 1969
  (For some time Mother's health has been very upset. Most of her recent meetings with Satprem were
  spent in silent contemplation.)
  ...Then there is little S.U. (do you know S.U.?), who isn't too happy with her work and asked me if I
  couldn't help her make some progress. So I told her, "Read Satprem's book...." She started reading
  Satprem's book. She told me "If I don't understand something, what do I do?" I said, "If you can't
  understand, ask me." So yesterday, she quoted a bit of a sentence to me (you know how they do: they
  --
  me, saying we should take another position, a "third position." She didn't understand (Mother gives
  Satprem the child's letter).89
  My answer is prompt. But I felt like saying to her, "Another time, what if you went and asked
  Satprem?"
  It wouldn't have the same effect!
  --
  
  89"I like Satprem's book which You gave me. But I have two difficulties. The first is with the words. There are some words
  whose meaning I do not know. And the second is that some passages are not clear. Here is one: 'What we may call with
  --
  (Mother runs her hand
  over Satprem's forehead)
  
  --
  "For a very small number: to hasten the process of transformation."
  (Mother turns towards Satprem)
  
  --
  It seems that among those Sannyasins and others, it's often done... but it's dangerous.
  91The Sannyasin who initiated Satprem.
  92Mother is referring to a special puja or Tantric ritual (kumari puja) during which the officiant brings down certain forces
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads out to Mother the article he has written for Italian television.)
  It's for Paolo, for Italian television.
  --
  Does it interest you?... I have entitled it, "The Great Sense.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  
  95Satprem finally left the word "God."
  
  --
  July 2, 1969
  (Satprem proposes to Mother a partial publication of the conversations of May 31 and June 4 on the
  glorified body.)
  --
  different, once in a while like that, as in that vision with Amrita, and associated with a work I was
  96To explain Satprem's repeated complaints better, let us add that for the first five years of his yoga, he used to have an
  extremely conscious sleep, almost from beginning to end, on various planes and with the perception of the transition from
  one plane to another or from one body to another and the memory of his activities on every plane. Then everything abruptly
  disappeared. it took Satprem almost ten years to understand that this "disappearance" was deliberate and meant to compel
  him to do the sadhana in the physical, otherwise he would have indefinitely continued with the "experiences" of the inner
  --
  99By six or seven hours of japa (repetition of a mantra) every day.
  100Satprem's former Tantric guru.
  
  --
  I had it at the beginning of the century - it's much older than you! Do you want it? To open letters...
  (Mother gives the letter opener to Satprem
  and goes on looking through the boxes)
  --
  (Mother gestures to put
  Satprem into contact)
  
  July 19, 1969
  (Mother was strongly shaken on Wednesday the 16th and could not see Satprem.)
  They have mixed me up (in Delhi and here) in all their political affairs... "mixed me up," I mean
  --
  I don't know if they are the ones.... There's a photo taken in profile....
  (Mother and Satprem
  look at the photos)
  --
  (Laughing) A dangerous person!
  (Satprem lays his forehead on Mother's
  knees and prepares to leave)
  
  (Mother looks at Satprem) I have a sort of impression that there's going to be a change for you too, for
  your nights.
  --
  of the problem."
  117More explicitly, a month earlier, in a text written for Italian television (The Great Sense), Satprem had said, "We go to
  the moon, but we do not know our own heart nor our terrestrial destiny."
  --
  July 26, 1969
  (Mother wants to revise with Satprem a few passages of her translation of 'Savitri.')
  But now I've come to notice that they cut these quotations, they leave out two lines in the middle -
  --
  think isn't too good. I've done it "like that"; I can't say I am attached to my translation, not at all, but if
  you could suggest something to me... (Satprem starts reading out a passage).
  As you said, the French might be a bit awkward, but it may be the only way to translate precisely.
  --
  (The "healer" referred to in this conversation will often recur in this Agenda, and will play a decisive
  131This same afternoon, Satprem, struck by a sudden thought, wrote the following note to Mother: "Following this
  morning's conversation, I have suddenly thought, 'But Savitri goes into death in search of Satyavan... so Mother is going to
  --
  
  role in Satprem's life, in the sense that through a sort of reductio ad absurdum, he will make Satprem
  suddenly understand who Mother really is.)
  --
  132Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness.
  133"All that is the most vital and important for you will appear to be abstractions and speculations." A friend of Satprem's
  in the same publishing house gave him this explanation: "Were you writing about Vietnam, the Black problem, LSD, the
  --
  But you'll have a sequel, won't you?
  (Satprem opens his hands)
  
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother returns to the previous conversation about materializations, and Satprem's note in
  which he asked, "But Savitri goes into death in search of Satyavan... so Mother is going to bring back
  --
  Are you sure?... Because cheese is good for you. If you want more, there's nothing easier...
  (Mother peers at Satprem's face)
  
  --
  (Mother goes into a long contemplation
  lasting till the time when Satprem
  normally leaves)
  --
  August 16, 1969
  (Mother had advised Satprem to go for a walk on Auroville's beach so as to get some rest, but as it
  happened, someone absolutely insisted on accompanying him.)
  --
  Is it a mistake?
  No, not at all! Not at all, she was only afraid that... She asked me, "Is Satprem in good health?..." I
  think you are!
  --
  After that, you only have to keep quiet.
  You know, this telegram... (Mother looks for it and hands it to Satprem).
  "Deep gratitude for blessing. I am always at thy service."
  --
  (Mother hands the paper
  to Satprem)
  
  --
  But it's very private.
  (Satprem reads out the text)
  
  --
  So there.
  (Mother gives Satprem and Sujata
  flowers of "Sri Aurobindo's compassion")
  --
  deluge of free goods.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, regarding Satprem's brother, who is beginning to take interest in the yoga.)
  I must have seen your brother lately, because two nights ago, I think, Sri Aurobindo met someone and
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem suggests the publication of the conversation of August 16 in which Mother says that the
  "Only solution" is to be in a state of inner stillness that does not seek to know or foresee, and to let the
  --
  They live in their own countries. There's one cardinal for each country.
  166This is not always the case, as Satprem learned afterwards. Thus in the thirteenth century, Celestine V was chosen from
  among mendicant monks, but five months later he abdicated, probably in disgust. He was jailed by his successor (and later
  --
  I'll try!
  Yes (poking fun at Satprem).
  What do you bring?
  --
  As for me, I have trust. I have trust in your reaction.
  (Satprem opens his hands)
  
  --
  Yes, of 1953.
  (Satprem reads out the Talk of August 19 which first deals with the power of stones. Mother
  comments:)
  --
  lost it, and almost met with a catastrophe.... Especially amethysts: the power of protection.
  170Satprem sent her packing bluntly, telling her, "You are a poor little thing" (!)
  
  --
  Not now! (Mother laughs)
  (Then Satprem reads out
  this very beautiful passage:)
  --
  himself clearly. Later on, I tried to drive him into his experience, and it started flowing. What he
  171This is precisely what was going to be a revelation for Satprem and a decisive turning point in his own understanding of
  Mother.
  --
  
  (To Satprem:) Did you tell him that I don't speak?
  (Satprem to A.R.:) Mother doesn't speak.
  If he has something to say, he can do so.
  (Satprem:) What is the central question that preoccupies you?
  (A.R.:) The central question... The central question for me, with regard to past experiences, is to
  --
  fulfilling the conditions of the Law, we may re-create the same phenomena.
  (Satprem:) You spoke of a "block" somewhere?
  (A.R.:) Yes, exactly, the block is just that.... Ill give an image: when you know a law perfectly, you
  can't be in breach of the law; but if you know it imperfectly, you risk a fine at any moment.
  (Satprem:) Mother, it's the knowledge of the Law that he would like to have, so as not to make any
  mistake.
  But I don't know any "law"!... I don't know what he calls the "law" - I don't know any laws.
  (Satprem to A.R.:) What do you call the "law"?
  (A.R.:) The Law... I think that if in deep meditation one realizes union with the Divine according
  --
  the result one might have hoped for, which seems (I say, seems) really normal in the circumstances.
  (Satprem to A.R.:) You mean, when you want to cure someone?
  (A.R.:) Yes, that's it.
  (Satprem to Mother:) Mother, he says that when he wants to heal, for instance, there aren't two
  systems, there's only one: he goes into a deep, intimate communion with the Divine, and lets That
  --
  Yes, that's right.
  (Satprem:) So he wonders why, in certain cases, the result isn't obtained?
  But that's because on the supreme level it's decided that it shouldn't be obtained!
  --
  same, but it's not like that!
  (Satprem to A.R.:) Yes, it's not like that. It's a partial consciousness that tells you there must be a
  result, but in the total Consciousness...
  (A.R.:) I had always taken it like that too, but I wanted a confirmation of it.
  (Satprem to Mother:) That's how he had taken it, but he wanted a confirmation. Because, for
  example, he has the case of a man whom he knows intimately and who has become a paralytic. He
  --
  But he isn't cured.
  (Satprem:) He isn't cured. He has even given me the photo of the man, and he'd like to understand
  why, in this instance, he doesn't get cured.
  --
  constant than any vital or mental movement: it's like this (Mother clenches her two fists), it doesn't
  174The healer gave the following replies to Satprem's questions: "I have not come to India to cure myself, but to put myself
  at the disposal of the Force and to learn. I don't feel inspired to stop curing people so as to look after myself, and I don't
  --
  "The time seems opportune for you to make your last conquest over illness, and to do
  that, you need some rest in a solitary place. Everything can easily be arranged. Satprem
  will explain."
  --
  miraculous that they didn't get rid of him - they're very skilled for that. So...
  (Satprem reads P.L.'s letter)
  
  --
  "Oh, if India protested, it would lend weight."
  (Satprem has Tibet in mind,
  but remains silent)
  --
  October 12, 1969
  (From Satprem to Mother)
  (The full text of the following letter regrettably disappeared, only the last part of it was found. The
  healer told Satprem that what he found near Mother was "the same thing" as elsewhere, the same
  immutable, eternal, changeless "That." Satprem tried hard to make the healer feel that there was
  nevertheless something else near Mother - perhaps because it was the very question that troubled him
  --
  With love,
  Satprem
  
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  It is quite good.
  --
  ***
  (Later, Mother gives Satprem the following note which was given to seven or eight members of
  Orissa's parliament:)
  --
  activity, I would let her know. But I didn't tell A.R., because...
  186That is what Satprem had vividly felt: a gap between A.R.'s living experience and his mentalization of it, as if he were
  seeking to shut the ocean within a graduated thermometer.
  --
  You too...
  (Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mother's knees)
  --
  Yes, yes.
  191That was in fact a great turning point in Satprem's life: the experiential understanding between the great "That" and the
  "something else" that flows through Mother. It thus took Satprem fifteen years to come close to Mother...
  
  --
  ***
  (That evening, then, Satprem saw A.R., and after a difficult discussion during which Satprem tried to
  open A.R.'s eyes, he sent Mother the following letter to give her an account of what had taken place.
  Satprem was in front of irrefutable Monism - which does not see what is right under its nose.)
  October 25, 1969
  --
  with love,
  Satprem
  
  (Mother's reply)
  Satprem, my dear child,
  What A.R. calls me (the mother) is this physical body, and it is a fact that he receives nothing from
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to the English translation of the "Notes on the Way" proposed by Satprem, the
  conversation of August 16 in which Mother spoke of the need to make a void and wait for the
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, regarding Satprem's coming birthday, and his last meeting with the healer.)
  I've tried to see what I could give you.... I don't know. Don't you need anything? If you do, tell me....
  --
  November 8, 1969
  (The conversation begins ten minutes early. Mother hands a "Transformation "flower to Satprem.)
  Would you like one?
  Yes, it's necessary!
  195Satprem, and perhaps the world, will have much more opportunity to be sad in the following years - Mother had given
  up saying, "I want"....
  --
  196It seems almost certain that Mother meant to say the opposite: much less time. Let us recall that she once said to
  Satprem, "In the end, it's nothing - a mere breath and it will be done."
  197Conversation of October 1: "When the physical has learned something, it never forgets, that doesn't budge anymore."
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, regarding the English translation of "the Great Sense," a text written by Satprem.)
  I wrote it for Italian television, but then, they're under the control of the Vatican, so they didn't
  --
  
  (Satprem translates into
  French, omitting "among")
  --
  Could we also put something brief from Sri Aurobindo?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  Something is happening.
  (Mother goes into a long contemplation during which Satprem feels a very powerful creative force.)
  I often think of another creation which would serve this new world a little.
  --
  There was a very strong presence just now.
  206The following year (nine months later to be precise), On the Way to Supermanhood will drop down on Satprem.
  
  --
  now they're nothing but words.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  Unity =...
  (Satprem cannot decipher)
  
  --
  illegible. To be able to read, one would need to have the experience.
  (Satprem tries to read)
  
  --
  November 22, 1969
  (Satprem gives his pension to Mother)
  You give money just like that! But don't you need any?
  --
  211As unbelievable as it may appear, Mother did not dare to ask her own disciples, knowing the storms that would give rise
  to. Thus Satprem could never recover the notes written by Mother. Even the words changed by Mother herself were later
  reintroduced.
  --
  Because one is lying down!
  (Satprem to Sujata:) Have you felt something at night?
  (Sujata:) Last night I had the same thing, and I perspired.
  --
  My impression is that you can write it.
  (Satprem opens his hands)
  
  --
  letter he said (those are the few words he used), "Now I know who he is..." That's all.
  Who Satprem is?
  Who you are. I didn't ask, that didn't interest me in the least! But with your dream, it becomes
  --
  Then they brought me extracts from Sri Aurobindo for the next Bulletin.
  (Satprem reads aloud)
  
  --
  (Letters on Yoga, 24.1394)
  (Satprem reads
  another extract)
  --
  In the eternity... it's just one moment! (Mother laughs)
  (Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mother's knees)
  --
  December 6, 1969
  (Satprem reads out to Mother the conversation on the supramental Consciousness, which he proposes
  to publish in the next Bulletin.)
  --
  higher understanding.
  217When Satprem later published this part of the conversation in the "Notes on the Way," Mother added the following
  comment: "In this Consciousness where the two contraries, the two opposites are joined, the nature of both changes. They
  --
  Is it readable? Because I'm not sure, I don't see clearly.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  December 20, 1969
  (Mother gives Satprem a Champak flower.)
  Do you know what it is?... It's the "divine psychological perfection." So someone asked me, "What's
  --
  So I wish you a happy New Year.
  (Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mother's knees)

Agenda_Vol_11, #The Mothers Agenda, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  author class:The Mother
  class:Satprem
  
  --
   Institut de Recherches volutives, Paris. 1981
  Rendered into English under the direction of Satprem
  
  --
  Since we decided to build that temple, I have seen I have seen the inside. I have just tried to describe
  it to Satprem. But in a few days I will have plans and drawings, so Ill be able to explain more clearly.
  Because I dont know at all how the outside is, but the inside I know.
  --
  the sun.
  (Satprem:) You said that you saw the walls with a slight slope.
  Either the walls or the roof will have to have a slope whatever will be easier. The walls can be
  --
  sealed?... Yes?), there is first a wooden floor, then that sort of rubber, and above, a woolen carpet.
  (Satprem:) With your symbol?
  Not on the carpet. The symbol, I first thought it should be done out of some solid material.
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, regarding Mothers comments on Sri Aurobindos Aphorisms, Satprem suggests a
  different word.)
  --
  As for him, he was very happy when I stopped seeing him...
  (Satprem opens his eyes wide)
  
  --
  to each other!... And among the rules there is one saying that one must not recognize personal gods.
  (Mother holds out the file to Satprem)
  
  --
  what Paolo says and then Ill tell you R.s ideas.
  (Satprem unrolls a plan) So you see, this is the outside, which would simply be like a shell. The
  inside is exactly as you saw it: that big bare carpet, and the ball at the center. What determined
  --
  Yes, yes.
  And this [Satprem points to the circular gallery] was in principle the entrance points where one
  emerges from underground.
  --
  Where would the walls be, then?
  The walls would be here [Satprem points to the outer side of the circular passage].
  
  --
  7A. R.: a healer, thirteenth child in a family of peasants, who came to see Mother in 1969, and who was badly shaken by
  Satprem.
  
  --
  infirmity of our consciousness is what creates this division. Mother added that one has to learn to
  disappear. Satprem had proposed the publication of a few extracts in the Notes on the Way.)
  Is it the end?
  --
  
  (Satprem:) You go to the heart of the problem to the heart of all problems.
  Yes, but... (Mother laughs)
  --
  January 28, 1970
  (Satprem first reads out to Mother his preface to the second edition of Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure
  
  --
  finds it difficult to understand that THE Consciousness is conscious of EVERYTHING at the same
  9By the Body of the Earth or the Sannyasin, which has been waiting in Paris for a year. Curiously, the day before, Satprem
  wrote a line to Mother to ask her, Is the fate of The Sannyasin guided by Sri Aurobindo?... But he did not send his letter to
  --
  Yes! Its fine, isnt it?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  goes on), but it was so dreadful! I felt, I said to myself, What is it? Whats going on that can cause
  12The two days of the week when Mother sees Satprem.
  
  --
  (Mother gives the yellow rose for Sujata
  together with the red rose for Satprem)
  
  (Taking Satprems hands:) My hands have no cold!
  
  --
  this time also, I think. God will not be deceived.
  (Satprem reads out Mothers answer)
  
  --
  (Since early February Mother has been coughing a lot. On the 14th, Mother was unwell and could not
  see Satprem. The following conversation is very important as it marks the visible beginning of a
  conflict that might be called medical and was going to assume acute proportions with every passing
  --
  February 21, 1970
  (Mother is ninety-two. She receives Satprem after the collective meditation. Before she speaks, Mother
  looks at him for a long time with an indescribable expression.)
  --
  17Mother is still coughing a little.
  18At the beginning, while Mother was looking at Satprem.
  
  --
  (Mother goes into a contemplation
  then gives Satprem a red rose)
  
  --
  
  21As a matter of fact, Satprem started taking interest in Auroville only after Mothers departure, when he saw that Mothers
  work there was in peril.
  --
  March 13, 1970
  (Satprem had written Mother a rather cross letter because she had been told some malicious gossip
  about him, just as she had been told to what end we do not know that his friend, the Marquis B.,
  was a spy. Satprem understood nothing of those jealousies and was surprised that Mother could
  even listen to such tattle. In fact, Mother did not actually listen but worked on all the elements that
  --
  
  Satprem, my dear child,
  I do not believe what Udar tells me, nor what anyone whosoever tells me. The Lord has given me
  --
  
  (To Satprem:) Have you seen the latest Aphorisms?
  Yes, on diseases and doctors.... But here in one aphorism, Sri Aurobindo has one little sentence
  --
  (Mother brings a finger down), its sure, sure and certain that we will have it RIGHT HERE.
  (Mother looks at Satprem
  for a long time, then takes his hands)
  --
  What did I say?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  Naturally, for me, the answer is this sense of humor! (Mother laughs)
  (Satprem:) Yes, you write to T., Sri Aurobindo had the genius of humor and one only has to
  admire and be silent.
  --
  It depends on the date when it was written.
  (Satprem:) It looks like the same experience as Ramakrishnas.
  (Nolini:) At the time he used to sign letters not Sri Aurobindo but Kali.
  --
  March 28, 1970
  (Mother holds a note out to Satprem)
  This is what I sent for the conferences of the New Age Association.29 They asked, Is the aim of life to
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, for a message for April 24, Mother asks Satprem to look for a quotation from Sri
  Aurobindo. Satprem proposes this:)
  
  --
  (Then Mother takes up the French translation of the above quotation and spends a long time looking
  for a word for right. Satprem reads out several unsatisfactory translations from a dictionary.)
  The French language is very literary and mental, isnt it?
  --
  been a tremendous CHANGE!
  (Satprem prepares to leave,
  lays his forehead on Mothers knees,
  --
  Later... Later.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  April 8, 1970
  (Regrettably, Satprem did not preserve the recording of the following conversation, perhaps feeling too
  acutely the negative appearance of Mothers difficulties, although that very negativity was the
  --
  but something which is... an inexpressible discomfort.
  (Mother holds Satprems hands
  for a long time, looking at him)
  --
  Logically, there has to be a Mother of Ignorance.
  (Satprem to Sujata:) What did the Mother of Ignorance do?
  (Sujata:) In my dream?... I had a long dream, and towards the end, I met her. I had to go through
  a place, and I told her, I must go to the Light, to the Mother of Light.
  (Satprem:) And then?
  (Sujata:) Then the dream vanished.
  --
  So what did you tell her?
  (Satprem:) She told her she wanted to go to the Mother of Light.
  Oh, (laughing) and then she left!
  --
  where is that? I dont know.
  (Satprem to Sujata:) Tell your dream.
  (Mother continues)
  --
  On laughter?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  them?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  But I dont talk about all that.
  (At that precise moment, Satprem strongly had the following thought, which he almost told Mother: If
  a caterpillars vision were suddenly changed into a mans vision, it would clearly mean a bursting of
  --
  I cant hear.
  After Satprem leaves, I come and do my pranam.40 Then, in front of your gaze, my true inner being
  seems to come to the front.
  --
  (Mother plunges in)
  40Generally, when Satprem leaves at the end of the conversation, Sujata remains alone with Mother for a few moments.
  
  --
  April 29, 1970
  (Mother has had several heart attacks since the April 24 darshan. Satprem could not see her on the
  preceding Saturday.)
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother sorts out old papers, and finds Satprems letters from Ceylon, as he was about to
  become a Sannyasin. Those same letters disappeared again after Mothers departure.)
  --
  lamp for Mother to read). I dont need light, I dont see clearly anymore.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  speak of the Divine unless he has had experience of the Divine....
  46A few months later (October 21), Mother gave Satprem this note written to a French disciple, which seems to fit well
  with the story she has just recounted: I am told that you intend to distribute a reproduction of the portrait you did of me. It
  --
  What?
  (Satprem:) She started wiping and cleaning the wall so the picture would come out without
  difficulty.
  --
  (Sujata:) There were two pictures.
  (Satprem to Mother:) Later on, you spoke of those two visions you had: the image of death (when
  you shot someone point-blank), and the vision of your supramental body.
  --
  Do you have anything else?
  (Sujata slips a note into Satprems hand)
  
  --
  
  (Those last few days, Mother had her left eye slightly infected, then an abscess in a tooth Satprem
  too.)
  --
  There were interesting things again by Sri Aurobindo, did you get them?
  (Satprem reads the latest aphorisms)
  
  --
  me!... But the day before yesterday, I wrote something, and while writing, I said to myself, Oh, this
  will interest Satprem. And I no longer remember either!
  Its very strange.
  --
  
  The atmosphere is very good.... I was precisely like this (gesture inwardly turned to Satprem, to know
  whether he follows the movement), it was magnificent. Your atmosphere is very good. Its very
  --
  
  (Satprem lays his head on Mothers knees)
  
  --
  May 23, 1970
  (Satprem hands over his pension to Mother. She goes on:)
  This is the time of discoveries... everywhere!... Something seems to have exerted a pressure until things
  --
  Have you seen the latest Aphorisms of Sri Aurobindo?... He tells us to lose all our moral sense!
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  and the Supermind, and once or twice I feel you used one word for the other. But Id like to be
  sure.... [Satprem takes out the text]. At first, you speak of a new kind of perception that combines
  all organs together: a sort of total perception that combines hearing, sight, and so on. Then you
  --
  
  56Satprem meant that this world seems to be a world of work and not of contemplation or speculation.
  
  --
  Yes.
  Then you go on [Satprem takes up the text again], and theres another ambiguity:
  What will that being be like who will come after the superman? I dont know....
  --
  Yes, but it could be the intermediary.
  58Needless to say, Satprem is perfectly ignorant of scientific matters.
  
  --
  I didnt remember this book [Thoughts and Aphorisms] at all. Have you seen the latest ones?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  
  (With her head Mother asks Satprem if he has anything. With his head Satprem asks Mother if she has
  anything. Laughter.)
  --
  June 6, 1970
  (Satprem reads out to Mother a letter he has received from E, a disciple who tried hard to intrude into
  the conversations between Mother and Satprem, notably under the pretext of translating Savitri into
  French. Maneuvering was beginning to make itself felt.)
  --
  Have you seen the aphorism?
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  Yes, its the end of the Aphorisms, and it ends well!
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  Protestants. Then we signed the agreement. I told him I attach a great importance to this book in
  the whole of Latin America. He told me that in France, too, Satprems Sri Aurobindo is selling very
  well, but that there is a certain misunderstanding with you. Then I told him that after I leave, I
  --
  Its yes.
  Its yes? [Satprem makes a wry face.]
  Hes converted! Thats interesting. Its interesting, oh... its something.60
  --
  very pleasant! Things resist as they can.
  (Satprem reads another text)
  
  --
  July 1, 1970
  (Satprem reads out the conversation of June 27 a very slight shift of consciousness which
  Mother thought could be used for the Notes on the Way.)
  --
  immutable gesture), then it helps restore order.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  Oh, useful, certainly, but you shouldnt tire yourself. Because, you know, they will... (Mother makes a
  71Satprem will abundantly carry on with this until 1971. Then he will abruptly close his door when people will start
  referring to him as a guru.
  --
  73An old disciple, author of several books about Sri Aurobindo and editor of one of the Ashrams magazines.
  74Satprems letter to T. and the following letter from A. are retranslated here from the French translation.
  
  --
  it.
  Satprem
  
  --
  Dearest Mother, regarding certain translations of poems of Swami Ramalingam by his
  disciple T., you answered him through Satprem in such a way that he was led to equate
  Ramalingams Grace-Light and the supramental Consciousness....
  --
  Yes, yes, yes.
  (Mother holds out to Satprem
  a garland of Aspiration)
  --
  Yes, Mother, yes!
  (Satprem lays his head on Mothers knees)
  
  --
  in a Peace nothing can disturb.... Its so simple, so simple!
  (Satprem reads the notebook)
  
  --
  possible.... I dont remember. Just yesterday evening I translated it.... Nothing is impossible in the
  Hour of God.... One single sentence. Its the only thing Id like to tell him. (Satprem looks for the
  reference in vain)
  --
  August 1, 1970
  (Mother gives Satprem the message for August 15:)
  
  --
  Weve made brochures, On India, and then five cards with quotations.
  (Mother gives Satprem the texts)
  
  --
  
  Do you want Silence? Not Satprem, no! (Mother laughs) You wouldnt do your work anymore!
  (To Sujata:) Do you want?
  --
  (Since August 6, when Mothers attendant went away to be operated on for cancer, Mother has been in
  a very difficult state of health. Several times Satprem could not see her, and when he did, she signaled
  that she could not speak. So too this time, except for this question:)
  --
  (Mother nods approvingly
  and remains long concentrated on Satprem)
  
  --
  ???
  No?... He was here (gesture next to Satprem). You dont know who it is?... He was sitting like that, on
  the ground.
  --
  (silence)
  85Satprem heard he has many disciples and thought Mother was referring to this red-haired man. It never occurred to him
  he could have disciples!
  --
  All experiences are as if multiplied a hundred times.... Only, it has difficulty learning.
  (Satprem lays his forehead on Mothers knees.
  Mother gropes for flowers by her side.)
  --
  (Mother nods) Ah, isnt it! I feel its a flower connected to whats going on.
  (Satprem:) Its a hibiscus, a Power.
  Yes, its a Power.
  --
  There, my children.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  (Mother takes Sujatas hand in her left hand
  and Satprems hand in her right one)
  
  --
  (silence
  Satprem feels heartbroken)
  
  --
  you understand?
  (Satprem feels tears flow on his cheeks)
  
  --
  (Mother takes soup packets near her
  and gives them to Satprem)
  
  --
  And then the legs hurt.
  (Sujata and Satprem try
  to massage lightly Mothers legs)
  --
  90These uncontrolled movements.
  91During all this meditation, Satprem was in such an intense prayer, and there seemed to be a luminous power, almost
  white, bluish, solid, with these words constantly rising in him, as if they came from this light, We shall conquer, we shall
  --
  (the clock strikes,
  Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mothers knees)
  --
  Yes. Mother.92
  (Satprem lays his head on Mothers knees, then goes to Sri Aurobindos room)
  
  92Soon afterwards, Sujata reminded Satprem of these lines from Sri Aurobindos poem, A Gods Labour:
  I have delved through the dumb Earths dreadful heart
  --
  (Mother laughs,
  Satprem lays his head on her knees,
  silence)
  --
  Yes.
  (silence, Satprem lays
  his forehead on Mothers knees)
  --
  And its this, this doubt, thats a torture.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  (Mother gives Transformation flowers.)
  You and Satprem...
  I am not allowed to take salt (Mother gives Satprem soup packets), it seems that this difficulty [in
  the left eye] comes from eating too much salt....
  --
  Yes... Yes.
  Well, then! (Mother laughs and takes Satprems hands) Go on thinking that way.
  Yes, Mother, I FEEL that way.
  --
  So thats what it is in your body.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands
  with tears in her eyes)
  --
  
  (Satprem kisses Mothers hand)
  
  --
  have seen things.
  99This conversation, and Satprems cry at the end, as if to shake off... we know not what, strangely resemble the last
  conversation he will have three years later with Mother, on 19 May 1973, as though he had to shake off an atmosphere of
  --
  Well see.... Well see.
  (Mother holds Satprems hands
  for a long time)
  --
  ***
  (After Satprem leaves, Mother tells Sujata again about her experience on the roof, and makes a
  102Perhaps that was the girl Mother was carrying? But we do wonder whether they had not drugged Mother. The
  --
  Its better to read me something.
  (Satprem reads a few Aphorisms of Sri Aurobindo for the next issue of the Bulletin)
  159 He who recognizes no Krishna, the God in man, knows not God entirely; he who
  --
  consolation! (laughter)
  (Satprem goes on reading,
  then asks)
  --
  (silence
  Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mothers knees)
  --
  I found some old papers again....
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  No.
  (Then Satprem proposes to publish some fragments of the conversation of September 9 the
  infernal Agenda in the Bulletin.)
  --
  Its all right (in an unconvinced tone).
  (Then Satprem reads the Comments on the Aphorisms and Mother Answers for the next
  Bulletin.)
  --
  D. asked A. M. to make a cover for the book. A. M. has done something hed like to show you. Here
  is what hes done....107 [Satprem shows the painting.]
  Bah! its really dark.
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads out an old Playground Talk of 16 September 1953,
  which ends with these lines:)
  --
  October 3, 1970
  (Mother gives Satprem a calendar notepad, then a felt pen.)
  What color is it?
  --
  ***
  (After Satprems departure, Sujata tells Mother about young women of her generation, who
  do not have the advantage of being close to Mother or in the circle of important persons,
  --
  Oh, interesting.
  (Satprem reads the introduction)
  
  --
  (Mother nods her head) Its good.
  (Satprem lays his forehead on Mothers knees)
  
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads the first chapter: The Mental Fortress.
  Mother stops at the following sentence:)
  112Satprem in fact wrote the whole book in three months and completed it in November.
  
  --
  Its magnificent! Magnificent.
  (at the end of the chapter, Satprem
  quotes Sri Aurobindos Hour of God)
  --
  While sorting papers, I found this. I dont know what it is.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  I think he has changed.
  (Satprem reads another note)
  
  --
  (Mother nods
  and gives Satprem the handwritten note)
  
  --
  ***
  (Satprem reads the second chapter of Supermanhood, The Great Process. After a few satisfied
  remarks, Mother adds:)
  --
  He has... he will benefit from The Adventure of Consciousness.
  (Mother looks at Satprem, smiling)
  
  --
  (long silence)
  113As a matter of fact, Mother seemed to plunge at the start of the chapter, and Satprem even wondered if she was
  listening; then towards the end of the chapter, she came back.
  --
  that of a new way of feeling, new way of reacting.... Its very strange.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  I have a letter from Dr. V, he asks a question about something Sri Aurobindo said.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  And on top of it (laughing) it doesnt interest me!
  (Mother gives Satprem soup packets)
  
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads the third chapter of Supermanhood: The Sunlit Path. Afterwards, Mother
  remains looking at him for a long time, with a charming smile.)
  --
  I found some old papers.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  (Then Mother listens to the English translation of an extract from the infernal Agenda of September
  9, which Satprem intended to publish in the forthcoming Notes on the Way. Nolini reads out his
  translation.)
  --
  Its gone, its over.
  I would like the two of you [Nolini and Satprem] to be absolutely sincere: is there nothing in you
  that thought, No, it cant be published?
  (Satprem:) I didnt have that impression. I had the impression it could be useful. But I think Nolini
  will be more objective since he wasnt here when you spoke.
  --
  I am afraid it might be an occasion for... it might encourage in people morbid experiences.
  (Satprem:) Yes, Mother, thats true.
  Thats what bothers me. Its better not to. It means encouraging morbid things in people.
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem prepares to read a new chapter of Supermanhood: The Bifurcation.)
  We should get the introduction translated into Hindi. Ill see with R.
  --
  There has been a tremendous change, but its not yet... I cant say anything about it.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  
  (Then Satprem reads the fifth chapter of Supermanhood: The New Consciousness.)
  Thats very good, its creative of the condition.
  --
  October 28, 1970
  (Mother gives Satprem the message for the year 1971.)
  Blessed are those
  --
  Its a curious phenomenon: its F. who writes this, and she doesnt understand well: for her its just
  114Satprem has a cold and was not able to read.
  
  --
  Now I want to hear your chapter.
  (Satprem starts reading half a dozen pages of the sixth chapter: The Tearing of Limits,
  115Murats victory, galloping at the head of armies. See Agenda III of 30 June 1962 and Agenda VII of 3 November 1966.
  --
  Its going very fast. But maybe Ill have to revise afterwards just the same.
  116Curiously, while Satprem read, Mothers breathing was normal throughout.
  
  --
  
  117Satprem actually reads his manuscript for the first time when he reads it out to Mother.
  
  --
  November 4, 1970
  (Satprem reads the second part of the sixth chapter of On the Way to Supermanhood: The Tearing of
  Limits.)
  --
  Yes, of course! (Mother laughs)
  (Satprem starts reading the end of the eighth chapter: The Change of Vision. Afterwards, Mother
  remains long absorbed, as if deep in meditation.)
  --
  November 18, 1970
  (Mother gives Satprem, as every time, soup packets. Then she comments:)
  There has been something like a small catastrophe! It is that in Africa all Indians are sent back, or their
  --
  ***
  (Satprem reads the chapter entitled, The Greater Self.)
  What has happened to you!... Mon petit, its... (Mother looks much moved). This is really tomorrows
  --
  (Mother shakes her head
  and takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  To know not to put obstacles on the way is something already.
  (Satprem prepares to leave)
  
  --
  Oh, Mother!
  (Satprem lays his head
  on Mothers knees)
  --
  ***
  (To Sujata, after Satprem has left.)
  On December 5 and 9, you two will come after the [collective] meditation. I wont translate, but I want
  --
  November 25, 1970
  (Satprem reads the second part of chapter 10, The Harmony.)
  ...When the gaze changes, one can rebuild, the world.
  --
  beyond the mind beyond everything, everything, not only the mind but the intellectual.
  118Satprem will not see Mother on those days: on December 3, she will fall seriously ill. It will be another dangerous
  turning point.
  --
  Its really interesting.
  And it has a strange power to transform things.... You understand, for me the Satprem of this book
  isnt the same Satprem as before. Everything takes on a... a new appearance, I dont know a new
  contact.
  --
  119Mother does look moved.
  120Regrettably, Satprem did not keep any of the tape-recordings of Mother about On the Way to Supermanhood, finding
  them too personal at the time. He still had enough person not to want anything personal.
  --
  November 28, 1970
  (Satprem offers his pension to Mother and asks her if he could keep a little money to build a room for
  himself in the Nandanam gardens, on the outskirts of Pondicherry.)
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads the beginning of chapter 11 of Supermanhood; The Change of Power.)
  It creates an atmosphere that lasts the whole day like that, and I cant talk anymore.
  --
  Theres nothing left here (Mother touches her forehead), nothing. You understand, it seems to come
  like this, and then it goes like this (continuous gesture rising from Satprem to Mother, then from
  Mother spreading on both sides onto the world.)
  --
  ***
  (Satprem reads the end of chapter 11 of Supermanhood, The Change of Power.)
  Its magnificent!...
  --
  From this day, Mother went through a long ordeal that lasted more than a month and a
  half. That will be the last turning point after those of 1962 and 1968. Satprem will see
  her again only on January 16. On December 31, her faithful cashier Satyakarma left his

Agenda_Vol_12, #The Mothers Agenda, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  author class:The Mother
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  --
   Institut de Recherches volutives, Paris, 1981.
  Rendered into English under the direction of Satprem
  
  --
  January 16, 1971
  (Satprem has not seen Mother since last December 2. The latest turning point in her yoga has just
  occurred, similar to those of 1962 and 1968. Her small voice quivers and is lost in a murmur, yet her
  --
  Then come tomorrow, its better for the Press. I am happy to see you....
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  Youre a very dear child.
  (As Satprem is about to leave, Mothers
  assistant hands him a note written by Mother)
  --
  Yes, it was for the radio station here, they had asked me for it.
  (Satprem reads)
  
  --
  January 17, 1971
  (Satprem reads to Mother some passages from yesterdays conversation that will be published in the
  Bulletin. Mothers voice is like a long moan, but her laugh is still ready to break out, as if laughter
  --
  
  I have such an impression such a vivid and clear impression that the contact (with Satprem) was
  CONSCIOUS the whole time. It was a conscious contact. As if we were making an effort together to
  --
  It served some purpose.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  Au revoir.
  (Satprem leaves,
  Mother takes Sujatas hands)
  
  (Laughing) I gave your flowers to Satprem, so you dont have any!
  I have your hands, Mother!
  --
  Au revoir, mon petit.
  So then, give me a sign or let me know (laughing): It would be good if you saw Satprem! All
  right? (laughter)
  --
  January 23, 1971
  (Mother sees Satprem regarding the English translation of the latest Notes on the Way for the next
  Bulletin. After the work:)
  --
  I dont really know.... Its very strange, for me this whole sense of organization has become... (gesture
  of disintegration). I might suddenly say, Well, if Satprem were here.... You understand? It rather
  works like that, but its not very practical.
  --
  regularly.
  (Satprem leaves
  and Sujata goes up to Mother)
  --
  January 27, 1971
  (Mother hands to Satprem a note that she sent to an Aurovillian)
  It is the old methods of yoga that demand silence and solitude.
  --
  I am counting on it.
  (Then Satprem reads to Mother a letter from the friend in the Vatican.)
  ...When the Pope was traveling [in the Pacific], there were two assassination attempts on
  --
  
  (Satprem reads a few pages
  of the chapter)
  --
  January 30, 1971
  (Again Mother is not well, she receives Satprem an hour late. And first she sees Satprems mother for a
  few minutes.)
  So, how do you find him?
  (Satprems mother, solid as a Breton rock:) Quite well.
  He has written a splendid book. I am counting on this book to revolutionize the world.... You can be
  proud of your son.
  (Satprems mother smiles and goes out)
  
  --
  Oh, read to me! Thats far more interesting.
  (Satprem reads the next part of Sociology of the Superman and, in particular, in the text he quotes
  this passage from Sri Aurobindo about propaganda:)
  --
  
  (After Satprems reading of the book, Mother asks that it be translated into the languages of India and
  mentions Bengali, Hindi, Oriya, and Tamil.)
  --
  (End of the reading of chapter 12, The Sociology of the Superman. Mother expresses her happiness
  and Satprem protests.)
  But Mother, it really just came. It was all given to me, as if it were dictated, you understand? I did
  --
  It fills me with joy.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  I would like your book to be translated into every language.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands,
  
  --
  February 24, 1971
  (Satprem gives a white rose to Mother.)
  Oh, how beautiful!
  --
  Well fill it with force.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands. Then Sujata approaches. Let us note that Sujata had suggested to one
  of the attendants who prepares Mothers food to prepare some coconut water for her. The suggestions
  --
  March 6, 1971
  (Mother calls Satprem in an hour and a half late.)
  Its an invasion! An invasion.... Its dreadful.... I dont know what to do.
  --
  Oh, I am counting very, very, very much on your book.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  March 10, 1971
  (Satprem begins by reading to Mother an unpublished letter by Sri Aurobindo.)
  A Most Fruitful Adventure
  --
  
  (Mother caresses Satprems head
  and goes within)
  --
  (long concentration,
  Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  (Another sign of the times: The disciple who works in the Ashram post office refused to put stamps on
  Satprems letters why, we dont know. At the time Satprem was giving all his money to Mother and
  possessed nothing personally. Mother is therefore forced to sign a note in her own hand so that
  Satprems letters get stamped. Then she remains very interiorized during the whole interview. It was
  the same on March 20, at the last interview: that day, she gave Satprem the first copy of On the Way
  to Supermanhood, then went within the rest of the time.)
  --
  immense, stretched open like this, fantastic arms, and the people from the Ashram were here,
  12Satprem is especially thinking of East Bengal (Bangladesh), which has just proclaimed independence amid massacres
  perpetrated by the troops of West Pakistan.
  --
  Canada, while the rights to the book were reserved. This cheaper edition was exclusively intended for
  India. Satprem protests in particular against the jacket and presentation of the book, which are
  patently designed to make as much money as possible at a minimum cost. Mothers face is swollen, her
  --
  They always twist things around like that!
  17Satprem was thinking of the subconscious level.
  
  --
  Nothing to ask?
  (Sujata slips a note to Satprem:
  Is India doing okay?)
  --
  
  22Satprem does not mean the physical liquidation of Pakistan, of course, but the disappearance of the artificial separation
  created by the British in order to divide and rule. It should be recalled that for centuries the Muslims lived in perfect
  --
  Undated
  24The tape recorder failed right at this moment, while this was precisely the passage Satprem wanted most to record. So he
  hastily scribbled down Mothers words as she spoke.
  --
  April 11, 1971
  (Satprem has protested the Nietzschean jacket of Supermanhood in which superman was
  printed in French in enormous letters, and protested also the sales methods of that Press. This raised a
  storm. It is hard to know exactly what was reported to Mother, but she sent Satprem a rather severe
  note. What eluded Satprem completely then was a latent animosity against him, evidently because he
  was Mothers confidant. He lived completely apart from the Ashram factions and coteries; he only
  --
  whole.)
  From Mother to Satprem
  Satprem,
  This morning I saw B.,27 who brought me the letter you wrote to M. [the manager of the Press]. It
  --
  April 14, 1971
  (In reference to Mothers latest letter to Satprem.)
  Mon petit, if I have caused you pain, I am very sorry (Mother takes Satprems hands).
  Oh, listen, Mother!
  You see, I spoke to you the way I speak to myself [in Mothers letter to Satprem], as frankly as
  possible. But I really didnt think that would cause you pain. I saw in you that you knew things.... Tell
  --
  now its over.
  (Mother holds Satprems hands tightly)
  
  --
  Mother is still clasping
  Satprems hands)
  
  --
  33To throw some light on the nature of the schism, we include at the end of this conversation the text of a letter written by
  Satprem to an enthusiastic and erroneous reader.
  
  --
  Yes, her translation cant be good.... It will have to be done over.
  34Satprem was even accused of having betrayed Sri Aurobindo. There was a little clique of intellectuals in the Ashram,
  who after Sri Aurobindos passing refused for a long time to give recognition to Mother (and even while Sri Aurobindo was
  --
  (Mother goes within,
  then takes Satprems hands
  with a weary air)
  --
  The Schism
  Satprem had received the following letter from an enthusiastic reader of On the Way to
  Supermanhood:
  --
  disciplines and live according to their fancy. Two poles of the same misconception. Here then
  is the letter Satprem sent in response to this enthusiastic reader:
  Pondicherry, 6 April 1971
  --
  doors which have been closed for millenniums.
  Satprem
  
  --
  
  (On the occasion of the laying of the first stone of the Matrimandir on February 21, Satprem had
  written a letter to the architect of Auroville.)
  --
  Yes, thats exactly what I wrote to them.40 He told me, They couldnt care less.
  39Satprems letter was misunderstood and published abridged to suit the comprehension of the editors.
  40Here is Mothers text:
  --
  (These few words were said to Sujata at the time of her daily visit to Mother. Mother first asks about
  Sujata, then about Satprem. Then she sits absorbed.)
  The world is going mad.
  --
  I wanted to tell him this:
  (Mother hands Satprem a note)
  
  --
  42From the state of Andhra Pradesh.
  43Satprem was thinking in particular of the students in Sri Lanka who had just been massacred while the whole world,
  including India, acquiesced in total silence.
  --
  (Mother goes into trance
  holding Satprems hands in her right hand
  while her left hand remains turned upward,
  --
  (Sujata:) Only, those who do want to understand will lose out there are many.
  (Satprem:) But look, Mother, perhaps youre receiving some protests from a certain number of
  people, but there are many here, many more than... well, of course I cant say more than you
  --
  I dont know if youve seen these....
  (Mother hands Satprem several sheets of paper)
  
  --
  
  52Satprem had even wondered how to save Mothers papers. During the years 1960 and 1961, when Mother was still seeing
  him downstairs, he used to have a recurring dream: some enemies were after him, and he had to hide Mothers papers (the
  --
  shakes her head several times, then takes
  Satprems hands and both go within)
  
  --
  
  (Satprem reads the article. At one point in the text, he briefly mentions what he thinks each country
  represents: France = clarity of intellect; Germany = ingenuity; Russia = the brotherhood of man....
  --
  
  (Satprem finishes his reading54 )
  
  --
  (long silence)
  (Satprem gets ready to leave,
  Sujata comes near Mother)
  --
  May 25, 1971
  (Note from Satprem to Mother)
  I
  --
  No, it didnt seem to me to distort the thought.
  (To Satprem:) What do you say?
  I feel the essence is missing.
  --
  
  (Satprem to M.:) Did you feel the Force in it?
  (M.:) Well, Im not really capable of speaking about these things, but I can say that when I read
  --
  English better because its addressed to the intellect. But... Im not at all capable of judging.
  (To Satprem:) Who translated your article [on Bangladesh]?
  Z, Mother.59
  --
  Z knows how to translate.
  (Satprem:) She knows how to seize the Force and bring it out thats what counts.
  She should have translated your book!... Only, shes busy and writes herself.... I am going to ask her.
  --
  but I see you havent understood the book in the least! She knows it.
  (Satprem:) T. said some rather terrible things about my book....
  59The translation of Satprems article appearing in this book under the date May 15, 1971 has been done specially for the
  Agenda.
  --
  (M.:) I didnt read it with a very critical mind, Mother, but one reaction I did have, I can say
  frankly: I felt that what Satprem says is natural and it should be kept simple. It reminded me of a
  similar analogy as when I do a mathematical problem that I find extremely difficult, but once Ive
  --
  what conditions, I dont know.
  (Satprem to M.:) In a book you cant openly speak of a guru, telling the readers, You must follow
  such and such a person. You can only make them feel something and turn them toward it, but you
  --
  (Laughing) So I am responsible!
  (Satprem:) Well, someone has to be responsible for it!
  (Mother laughs)
  --
  You think so? (laughter)
  (Satprem:) I think so, yes! (laughter)
  I must say that if it comes to you like that, as a necessity, thats all right, but one should not seek to do
  --
  thought it had vanished altogether. I was surprised when I was told it had come to bother you again.
  Thats... thats not Satprem.
  Yes, I know.
  So cling to Satprem.
  60Satprem had informed Mother that he felt he was in the blackest hole of his life and that everything was as it used to be
  before, as if the seventeen years in the Ashram had never existed.
  --
  Mon petit....
  (Mother clasps Satprems hands
  long silence)
  --
  Theres something I feel very deeply.... (silence) Words... words (Mother shakes her head).... But to
  say it as simply as possible, I could say, The Lord loves Satprem. And thats something profound,
  profound, profound.... The Lord loves Satprem. Thats all.
  (Satprem puts his forehead on Mothers knees)
  
  May 27, 1971
  (Extract from Satprems notebook)
  Pranab-desh.61
  --
  May 29, 1971
  (Mother receives Satprem nearly two hours late. Mother apologizes! The conversation starts with the
  Russian translation of Supermanhood. The translator is asking for 2,000 francs.)
  I dont know if I have the right to spend the money! There are nothing but rules, rules....
  61What made Satprem put this laconic note in his notebook, what was the occasion, the reason? It is like a forewarning,
  which we shall leave as it is. Pranab is the name of Mothers guard. Desh = territory or country.
  --
  June 2, 1971
  (Concerning Satprems difficulties)
  I myself had felt that something in you, some part of the consciousness a very external and superficial
  --
  it must be eliminated from your personality.
  (Satprem puts his head on Mothers knees,
  Mother bends down to kiss him)
  --
  (To Sujata)
  Tell Satprem that whatever the circumstances, he must go down very, very deep into his heart: Lord,
  what You want, Lord, what You want. No questioning, no asking why this (forehead) silent, and
  --
  June 9, 1971
  (First Mother informs Satprem that the article on Sri Aurobindo and Bangladesh has been
  translated into Hindi and sent to Delhi.)
  --
  Divine.
  (Mother looks at Satprem with great intensity,
  Satprem puts his forehead on Mothers knees)
  
  June 12, 1971
  (First, Mother gives Satprem a few copies of the Swedish translation of the introduction to
  Supermanhood, then Satprem reads several extracts from Sri Aurobindo for the next Bulletin.)
  Every sadhak has by nature certain characteristics which are a great obstacle on the way of
  --
  June 16, 1971
  (Satprem suggest several extracts from the Agenda for Notes on the Way, the first being that of May
  22 on the intervention of the Supreme Wisdom: The possibility of a breathtaking success not in the
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem suggests some extracts from the conversation of June 9 on the onslaught of
  Falsehood and in particular the passage on the dissolution of the ego.)
  --
  As a matter of fact a minister64 has gone to various countries to tell them they intended to make war.
  62Satprem had read other letters of Sri Aurobindo about the Ashram, Mother had selected the last one, just quoted.
  63Ten or twenty thousand (?) copies had been printed; the article was translated into all the Indian languages and sent in
  --
  
  Thank you for submitting the two manuscripts by Sri Satprem, By the Body of the Earth
  [The Sannyasin] and On the Way to Supermanhood.
  Unfortunately, in both cases, our readers felt that Sri Satprem had not succeeded in laying
  the foundations of his beliefs, ultimately rather vague, or at any rate not easy to convey. As
  --
  (Mother goes back within,
  then Satprem draws away
  and Sujata comes up to Mother)
  --
  July 28, 1971
  (Mother sits looking long at Satprem, her eyes open, then she smiles.)
  Ooh!...
  When you were sitting here [in front of Mother] and I looked at you, you took your body and
  opened it like this (gesture as if Satprem were ripping his body in half from the stomach down), all, all
  the way.
  --
  (Mother plunges within,
  then surfaces and hands Satprem a piece of paper)
  
  --
  (Mother gives up,
  Satprem makes the recording in her place)
  
  --
  Dont know.
  (Satprem puts his forehead on Mothers knees
  and gets ready to leave)
  --
  August 11, 1971
  (Mother gives Satprem a note she has just written.)
  When men become disgusted with the falsehood they live in, then the world will be
  --
  There is only ONE remedy there is only ONE remedy to rely only on the Divine Grace.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  published in an Ashram periodical. It is interesting to note that the text is an alteration of a much older
  original text that Mother had given to Satprem. The original text is included afterwards.)
  The task of giving a concrete shape to Sri Aurobindos vision has been entrusted to the
  --
  August 14, 1971
  (It is the eve of August 15. Mother sees Satprem having been unable to finish seeing her usual
  entourage.)
  --
  (silence
  Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  repeating all sorts of useless things.
  79Satprem means not permanently in contact with the inner.
  
  --
  August 25, 1971
  (Mother sits looking at Satprem for what seems a very long time. Her left eye is still swollen.)
  Something to ask?
  --
  I am not in a condition where I can help others outwardly.
  (Mother takes Satprems hands)
  
  --
  
  (Mother takes Satprems hands.
  sits with her eyes closed,
  --
  September 1, 1971
  (Concerning the years 1946-1948, when Satprem first came to Pondicherry to join the government of
  French India with Governor Baron.)
  --
  I am glad you saw me!
  (Mother laughs and takes Satprems hands)
  
  It was like this: (Mother makes a gesture of grasping Satprems wrist).
  (silence)
  85Actually, Satprem well remembered that encounter, but he wanted to spare Mother the account of his own state of mind
  that day, for he was angry with Mother (!) because she was paying a visit to the man who had schemed to take Governor
  --
  88Mother had at first said, Then it would be finished, then she changed it to It would be the real beginning when
  Satprem published this portion in Notes on the Way.
  
  --
  (Mother goes into the Calm for a half hour
  while holding Satprems hands)
  
  --
  terms of development). And he grew up at your contact.91 Its interesting.
  90Satprems brother will commit suicide two years later, shortly after Mothers passing.
  
  --
  Or else it left because the vital being (vital and physical) violently pushed it away.
  91Once, several years ago, Mother had received both Satprem and his brother together, and they had sat at her feet, side by
  side. Then, after the interview, Mother told Satprem: Its strange, he seems to be like an emanation of you.
  
  --
  It means you havent finished! (Laughing) You havent finished writing!92
  (Mother gazes long at Satprem,
  then goes within)
  --
  Anything to say?
  92Alas, Satprems next book will be the trilogy on Mother, in 1975.
  
  --
  and goes within for a half hour.
  Then Satprem gets ready to leave
  and Sujata approaches Mother)
  --
  supramental realization.... Did you see that?
  Satprem saw it.
  (Satprem:) I saw it last night.
  Why, thats splendid! Its splendid. It announces the victory. What were you meditating on?
  --
  October 2, 1971
  (Last year, after the death of General de Gaulle, Satprems friend Y.L. had met Andr
  Malraux at Verrires; he immediately asked her, Is the Mother still alive? As Y.L. was a
  --
  October 13, 1971
  (Mother hands Satprem an unusual transformation95 flower.)
  Nine petals.... Thats the new creation its the transformation for the new creation.
  --
  October 23, 1971
  (Satprem reads to Mother a letter from G., which ends with the following question.)
  
  --
  Supreme Peace, certitude, and even the functioning of the body can change.
  (Satprem has not heard well:) You said Supreme Peace....
  Supreme Peace is established and becomes constant, and then....
  --
  There are two long ones and four short ones. Well put them in February and August next year.
  (Satprem, leafing:) Ive just chanced on this one!
  One must have faith in the Master of our life and works, even if for a long time He
  --
  My card is there nothing much. I dont even know what I wrote you.
  Shall I look? [Satprem opens the card.] You said, With my affection and blessings.
  Just that. Its better than a lot of words. I dont like big words.
  --
  Yes, she complements you well.
  (Satprem puts his forehead on Mothers knees)
  
  --
  Well, no!... Did you see the sentence in my letter there are also personal questions behind. He is not
  saying it, but thats what it is. Hes hoping to find someone (Satprem) who will give him the authority,
  you understand?
  --
  I dont know.... I was trying to give myself.
  (Mother smiles and takes Satprems hands) It came very strongly, very strongly, like this (massive
  gesture falling from above). You were in it.
  --
  experiences, a change.... I remember when I noticed it, I thought, This would be interesting for
  Satprem to know. And then, gone.
  So totally changed....
  --
  November 20, 1971
  (Mother hands Satprem two notes.)
  We are at a moment of transition in the history of the earth. It is a moment only in terms of
  --
  become more tremendously dense each time though perhaps that is a subjective impression. We cant help mentioning a
  phenomenon that Satprem observed often enough: each time Mother came out of her contemplation, she had a sort of
  momentary suffocation and could not find her breath, as if she were really coming out of another air.
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to Satprem read a letter
  from the disciple in the Vatican.)
  --
  I always have the impression I had something to tell you....
  (Mother tries vainly to remember. Then Satprem goes on to read several letters by Sri Aurobindo, and
  in particular this one, addressed to a Muslim disciple who wanted to leave the Ashram to practice his
  --
  I have some notes that can be used for February things I said.
  (Mother hands a piece of paper to Satprem)
  
  --
  ***
  (A little later, Satprem reads several letters
  by Sri Aurobindo and in particular this one:)
  --
  
  116Here the recording tape ran out and Satprem made a movement of anxiety, which Mother immediately perceived (she
  was speaking with her eyes closed) and she almost instantly interrupted the conversation. In fact, Mother could speak only
  --
  ***
  (A little later, Mother listens to Satprem read various letters of Sri Aurobindo, then a letter she herself
  117Sri Aurobindo came to announce to the world a glorious future and opened the door to its realization.
  --
  December 8, 1971
  (Mother gives Satprem a note she has just written.)
  Our human consciousness has windows opening on the Infinite. But generally men keep the
  --
  ***
  (Mother goes on looking above Satprems head as if she were seeing something. Then she plunges
  within.)
  --
  December 11, 1971
  (At the start of this conversation, Satprem reads to Mother the text she had asked him to write for
  Indian radio for Sri Aurobindos centenary. This text is included at the end. Then the conversation
  --
  Pondicherry, 9 December 1971
  Satprem
  
  --
  it. Its entirely outside of time it may be a minute, it may be an hour.... Something else.
  (Satprem leaves,
  Sujata goes up to Mother)
  --
  December 29, 1971
  (Mother caresses Satprems swollen eye.)
  No, no, it really doesnt hurt, Mother... Do you have anything new?
  --
  
  Its a bit difficult, yes, but... (Mother takes Satprems hands).
  (silence)

Agenda_Vol_2, #The Mothers Agenda, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  author class:The Mother
  class:Satprem
  
  --
   1978 Institut de Recherches volutives, Paris
  Rendered into English under the direction of Satprem
  
  --
  Apparently not!
  (Mother gives Satprem a rose.) This is the Tenderness of the Divine for... for himself! The
  tenderness He has for his creation. 'Creation'... I don't like that word, as if it all were created from
  --
  2The notebook in which a young woman disciple asked questions on Sri Aurobindo's Thoughts and Aphorisms. Later,
  Mother preferred answering verbally Satprem's questions on the aphorisms. This allowed her to speak of her experiences
  freely without the restrictions imposed by a written reply. These 'Commentaries on the Aphorisms' were later partially
  --
  embodiment. These mark the great stages of the supreme incarnations upon earth.
  5Later, Satprem asked Mother, 'Is it a single vibration that CAN REPEAT itself endlessly or that REPEATS itself
  endlessly?' Mother replied: 'I meant several things at once. This single vibration is in static latency everywhere but when
  --
  19Mother did her japa while walking back and forth in her room.
  20Satprem later asked Mother what she meant by these 'things,' and Mother replied: 'For example, there was a certain
  man's attitude with respect to life and to the Divine, and what he thought of himself, and so forth. You see, what came was
  --
  nothing either of what had come before or of what was about to come, so that when I reached the end, all of it together was
  a simultaneous whole - the Supreme Consciousness.' When Satprem asked if this Supreme Consciousness was the 'New
  Consciousness,' Mother replied, 'Not "new!" One can't say "new" - Supreme Consciousness.'
  --
  We have to be careful.
  28Mother frequently addressed Satprem as 'mon petit' or 'petit,' terms of endearment she used for very few other people.
  We have unfortunately been unable to find English equivalents that capture the nuances of Mother's simple 'petit' and 'mon
  --
  
  35Once again, Satprem was doing seven hours of japa daily.
  
  --
  Darshans51 or days for special blessings there is a new outbreak of adverse attacks - always.
  50Three years earlier, in 1958, Mother had told Satprem that February and March were 'bad months,' and she had spoken of
  cyclical movements in Nature like those in the individual consciousness, with alternating periods of difficulty and progress.
  --
  So good-bye, mon petit.
  (Mother gets up to leave when suddenly, turning upon the threshold, She looks at Satprem with her
  eyes like diamonds and, in a tone of voice he has never heard before, as if it were a Command from
  --
  February 18, 1961
  (Mother gives Satprem a flower she has named 'Supramental Action.'54 )
  Don't you find it beautiful?
  --
  ***
  (A short while later, concerning a book on Sri Aurobindo that Satprem was to write:58 )
  Have you seen Bharatidi?59
  --
  58Sri Aurobindo et la Transformation du Monde [Sri Aurobindo and the Transformation of the World], a book that Editions
  du Seuil had asked Satprem to write and subsequently refused on the pretext that it did not conform to the 'spirit of the
  collection.' This book would never see the light of day. Satprem would later write another book entitled Sri Aurobindo or
  the Adventure of Consciousness.
  --
  February 25, 1961
  (Mother gives Satprem some flowers.)
  This one is the Constant Remembrance of the Divine. 62 This is Life Energy63 and Purified Life
  --
  March 4, 1961
  (Mother gives Satprem a ruffled mauve petunia.)
  
  --
  Anyway....
  I have brought you a whole discourse! (Mother gives Satprem some flowers) First, the goal of the
  92Gaillardia.
  --
  then I was able to come. Otherwise, impossible.
  (Satprem puts a cushion under Mother's feet)
  It's almost a luxury these days!
  --
  subconscient: it was appalling, my child, the disclosure of an appalling inefficiency! Disgraceful!
  108Satprem later asked if this 'on earth' wasn't superfluous and Mother replied: 'This precision is not superfluous; I said
  "on earth" meaning that man does not belong only to the earth: in his essence, man is a universal being, but he has a special
  --
  112Puja: ceremony, invocation or evocation of a god (in this case, a tantric ritual).
  113Z was Satprem's first guru when he became a sannyasi. Then Z tried to exert his control over Satprem and predicted to
  Mother that he would never remain in the Ashram. Finally Satprem broke with him and Z went away furious.
  
  --
  This stupid cold... in the middle of the night. It was the start of the attack.
  And now the door is open - that's not so good! (Satprem gets up to close the door.)
  (Mother laughs) No! I'm not cold, I'm hot!
  --
  March 25, 1961
  (On the previous day, Satprem had written a letter to Mother complaining of never having any
  concrete experiences.116 After a meditation together, this is what Mother replied.)
  --
  you are capable of receiving light, intuitions, revelations - but this is probably so normal for you that
  114Satprem was trying to patch up some French translations of Sri Aurobindo done by well-meaning but not very gifted
  disciples, who of course wanted 'to publish' at all costs.
  --
  I have never written or spoken to X about this, but through mental contact I have told him I don't
  know how many times: 'Satprem has a work to accomplish that is INFINITELY more important than
  reciting mantras. If it can help him to discipline himself, fine, but it's nothing more; he will not
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to a reading from the 1960 'Agenda.' At the end, Satprem remarks, as though to
  excuse himself for noting some apparently irrelevant details.)
  --
  Yes, of course. But it's basically a description of my sadhana, that's all, and I always say that it will be
  124Satprem is referring to the enormous amount of material work he had in addition to seven hours of daily japa.
  
  --
  Let me tell you about a recent occurrence. E. had sent a telegram saying that she had a perforated
  127Satprem had assumed that this state of consciousness was accessible only through a kind of trance or samadhi and that
  when Mother said one had to be capable of 'maintaining this state,' she meant that one should be capable of bringing it back
  --
  enough to tell myself, 'The part experiencing this prevails and keeps the rest calm, yet if the
  130Satprem remarked that this sentence might be interpreted in an 'illusionist' sense (i.e., that the objectification of the
  material world would be a falsehood), and Mother replied: 'No, it's not the objectification that is a falsehood, but our
  --
  ignorant.
  (Satprem:) They jumble everything up.
  Yes. They have no discrimination. As long as the words are there, that's it - it's enough!
  --
  No, it's disgusting!
  (Satprem.) There's this passage on propaganda by Sri Aurobindo I sent to the World Union people.
  It should really be published everywhere. Do you remember it? 'I don't believe in propaganda....'136
  --
  Pavitra leaves.
  Mother gives flowers to Satprem:
  
  --
  ***
  (Later, Satprem wanted to read certain past conversations to Mother for her to add to her Agenda.
  Mother refused to listen - it wasn't the first time, either - and lively protestations ensued.)
  --
  May 23, 1961
  (Satprem inquires about Mother's health.)
  It's obviously a type of filariasis which obstinately refuses to go away, but anyway.... It causes only
  --
  whole thing.
  (In vain, Satprem protests, complaining that Mother always wants to delete everything.)
  
  --
  reveal all, because here is the source of all mercy, of all power to efface error when it no
  longer recurs....'Surprised, Satprem blurts out.)
  But there's no more problem when the error no longer recurs! Isn't it when the error recurs that it
  --
  June 6, 1961
  (Mother arrives looking weary. Satprem asks if she is tired.)
  No.... I had finished reading the Veda and wanted to take up The Life Divine, but as I had never read
  --
  ***
  (At the end of the conversation, Satprem complains to Mother of the tiresome task of eating, and asks
  her if he couldn't cut it down drastically.)
  --
  ***
  (Satprem remarks on the gap between the inner realization of certain yogis like X and their outer
  behavior, which doesn't always seem up to the mark.)
  --
  167The tantric guru Sri Aurobindo met in 1907 and from whom he received mental silence.
  168Satprem no longer has the text of this letter.
  
  --
  July 7, 1961
  (Mother gives Satprem a white zinnia she has named 'Integral Endurance,' then an allamanda or
  'Victory,' and finally a flower of 'Supramental Victory.')
  --
  July 26, 1961
  (Satprem reads several passages from the July 15th conversation where Mother says that Sri
  Aurobindo left before saying what he had been doing, and that it was a path through a virgin
  --
  of it), when the Great Moment comes, well... I will descend to finish my work.'
  193Mother is referring to the book Satprem will write on Sri Aurobindo, which prompted the questions posed in this
  conversation.
  --
  August 5, 1961
  (Mother gives Satprem some flowers.)
  This is Skill in Works.205
  --
  instance, if you are over-tired or worried or flustered - anything that brings disorder into the
  207For the preparation of Satprem's book on Sri Aurobindo.
  
  --
  209Through Theon's malevolence, in fact.
  210Satprem remembers that a few years earlier Mother had told him about the circumstances of this incident: during her
  work in trance, Mother discovered the location of the 'mantra of life' - the mantra that has the power to create life (and to
  --
  August 11, 1961
  (Regarding the book on Sri Aurobindo that Satprem was preparing to write.)
  Again this morning, between 3 and 4 o'clock, Sri Aurobindo seemed to be showing me around the
  --
  August 18, 1961
  (Satprem began his book on Sri Aurobindo on August 15.)
  Have you been working?
  --
  216Punica granatum (Pomegranate flower).
  217Each time they met, Mother used to give Satprem a little bit of food: cheese, dried soups, etc.
  
  --
  August 25, 1961
  (Mother gives flowers) This is Alchemy.218 And here! (Mother hands Satprem some cheese)
  I still have plenty, you know!
  --
  220In fact, it was not X who said this, but one of his acolytes, N., who would later throw a great confusion into X's relations
  with both Mother and Satprem. The hunt for tantric powers was on.
  
  --
  every day - it doesn't matter if you don't remember, it's not important....
  (Satprem doesn't seem to agree)
  After all, remembering is merely an amusement. I have come to the conclusion that it's amusing and
  --
  September 3, 1961
  (The beginning of this conversation has unfortunately disappeared. It dealt with the book that Satprem
  was writing on Sri Aurobindo, and he spoke to Mother of his dream of writing automatically, without
  --
  even need to feel it!
  (Satprem makes a face)
  ...to feel it is a luxury. That will come later.
  --
  Has A. spoken to you about this?... X told him that you were the bridge between him and me (he even
  spoke in English): 'Oh, Satprem was the bridge.' (Mother smiles) And a second later he added, 'But
  now we don't need it anymore!' (Mother laughs merrily) I was much amused!
  --
  But this must be what you were thinking of, what you would like to use for your book.221
  221Strangely enough, some years earlier, when Satprem was writing L'Orpailleur, Sujata had a vision in which she saw
  him typing, and from the typewriter came, not typewritten lines, but music!
  --
  September 16, 1961
  (Satprem complains of his difficulties in writing the book on Sri Aurobindo. He says in particular that
  he has a feeling of being 'blocked')
  --
  September 28, 1961
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Sweet Mother,
  --
  Your child,
  Signed: Satprem
  (Mother's reply)
  Thursday
  Satprem, my dear child,
  If you agree, here is what we could do: read aloud to me what you have written; perhaps seeing it in
  --
  September 30, 1961
  (Mother gives Satprem a flower she has recently named 'Unostentatious Certitude': Platycodon
  grandiflorum)
  --
  ***
  (Following the letter Satprem had written to Mother the previous day regarding the book on Sri
  Aurobindo.)
  --
  224This letter to Mother is, with a few others, the sole survivor of thirteen years of correspondence. All the rest, all
  Satprem's correspondence with Mother since 1960, was confiscated by the Ashram after the Mother's departure, for its own
  reasons. His letters of 1960, already published in Volume I, escaped the destruction because Mother herself had kept them.
  --
  mutilated. Need we add that we had to prepare the first two volumes as fugitives, and it required Mother's miraculous help
  to avert even more serious mutilations than the auto-da-f of Satprem's correspondence.
  
  --
  ***
  (Towards the end of the conversation, Satprem once again complains of his difficulties in writing his
  book. Mother proposes that he try to unblock the way by reading his manuscript to her.)
  --
  your own creative power.
  (Satprem makes a face; he feels shy about reading his text aloud)
  Yes, you can find out if it's consistent with your state of consciousness and your manner of working!
  --
  October 15, 1961
  (During the two preceding meetings, Satprem read to Mother several fragments of his manuscript on
  Sri Aurobindo.)
  You have brought me a very strange experience.
  228It took Satprem fourteen years to lose the habit of correcting.
  
  --
  October 30, 1961
  (The day before and at the beginning of this conversation, Satprem read aloud some passages of his
  manuscript relating to the Veda. Then Mother chose the photograph of Sri Aurobindo for the
  --
  (Extracts from the passage in 'Sri Aurobindo and the Transformation of the World' read to Mother by
  Satprem. This unpublished manuscript would become the first rough draft of 'The Adventure of
  Consciousness')
  --
  November 5, 1961
  (Mother would prefer Satprem not to mention Paul Richard by name in his book on Sri Aurobindo.)
  I have done my best, all these years, to try to keep him at a distance. He has a power - a terrible asuric
  --
  239On June 28, Archduke Ferdinand of Austria was assassinated at Sarajevo.
  240Satprem no longer remembers the source of this false information.
  241Mother is alluding to the following aphorism of Sri Aurobindo: 'If when thou sittest alone, still and voiceless on the
  --
  243According to Mother's wishes, the tape was erased up to this point. But years passed and circumstances changed, and
  when Satprem found the transcription of this conversation among his papers, he deemed it worthwhile to preserve the major
  portion of it for its historical interest. Mother's difficulties are always the difficulties of the 'Terrestrial Work'; and this
  --
  November 6, 1961
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem:245 )
  Sweet Mother,
  --
  With all my love,
  Signed: Satprem
  (Mother's reply)
  --
  November 7, 1961
  (Regarding Satprem's letter to Mother on the Veda:)
  This has confronted me with a problem....
  --
  253Mother does not reply directly to this question (although she would probably have answered in the affirmative, since the
  point is indeed to LIVE this supramental consciousness), but she does reply directly to what is BEHIND Satprem's question
  - that is, this fundamental, deep-rooted assumption that physical life is the sole, concrete reality.
  --
  November 12, 1961
  (Mother improvises on the harmonium to 'say' something, or perhaps to calm Satprem's nerves, then
  continues:)
  Sri Aurobindo was telling me, 'Satprem has a headache and is tired because he's trying to do an
  unnecessary work.'
  --
  November 16, 1961
  (Letter from Mother to Satprem on the occasion of his manuscript being sent to Paris:)
  11-16-61
  Satprem, my dear child,
  You were scheduled for the 21st and the Italian 'delegate' for the 23rd. I have switched it around,
  --
  December 18, 1961
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Sweet Mother,
  --
  With love,
  Signed: Satprem
  (Mother's reply affixed to Satprem's letter.)
  This was to be expected.
  --
  December 20, 1961
  (Satprem reads Mother some extracts from the letter he has just received from his publisher in Paris.)
  
  --
  I do believe it!
  257Satprem did not choose these pictures.
  
  --
  258In 1915, when Mother left Pondicherry for France and later Japan.
  259Actually, Satprem did see Sri Aurobindo in 1946 or 1947.
  
  --
  speak of them. So... nonetheless, we still need a Bulletin!
  (For the next 'Bulletin,' Satprem reads to Mother from 'Questions and Answers,' dated January 4,
  1956.)
  --
  reorganization must be built on a new basis, and thus there isn't a second when ALL is not in
  265Satprem did not keep the full text of his reply, still under the erroneous impression that his personal questions had no
  place here.
  --
  ***
  (Satprem again reads from the same 'Questions and Answers' of 1956.)
  'All things are attracted to the Divine. Are the hostile forces also attracted to the Divine?'

Agenda_Vol_3, #The Mothers Agenda, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  author class:The Mother
  class:Satprem
  
  --
   Institut de Recherches volutives, Paris, 1979.
  Rendered into English under the direction of Satprem
  
  --
  That's how it is.
  Here, mon petit,5 I've been given something very good! (Mother laughs and gives Satprem a tin
  of... perhaps it was foie gras.)
  --
  about me that I had never read before. And it all came back, those full thirty years I lived with him....
  5Mother frequently addressed Satprem as "mon petit" or "petit," terms of endearment she used for very few other people,
  which can be approximately rendered as "my little one" or "my child." Since no English phrase can capture the nuances of
  --
  Aurobindo's Aphorisms]?
  (Satprem reads:)
  67 - There is no sin in man, but a great deal of disease, ignorance and misapplication.
  --
  January 12, 1962
  (Note from Mother to Satprem concerning his question of January 9, on the capacities required to gain
  access to the supramental world:)
  --
  January 12, 1962
  (Concerning Satprem's question on the experience of the "supramental ship":)
  Did you get my note, petit?
  --
  consciousness on all planes, including the material; and two, limitless plasticity in order to follow the
  19This is part of the lost treasures, never noted down, because at the time Satprem was not aware that the experiences
  Mother was relating to him were already part of the Agenda.
  --
  But keep it as impersonal as possible!
  Do you need this thing [Mother's note to Satprem]?
  Here, take your piece of paper - it's nothing but an intellectual notation.
  --
  We're at another stage now.
  26When Satprem published extracts from this conversation in the Ashram Bulletin of April 1962, Mother had this passage
  modified (over his protests). Instead of "Do not try to be virtuous," she put "Do not try to seem virtuous"; and she added:
  --
  30He did a portrait in profile of Sri Aurobindo, looking towards the future.
  31Considering it to be of no interest, Satprem unfortunately did not keep a record of his answer. The P. in question died
  insane, in a so-called "Japanese hospital," and one night (this is most likely the story he was telling Mother here) Satprem
  found him being held prisoner in a kind of hell. His body was covered with wounds which Satprem treated with balm. He
  then told P., "But go on, say Mother's mantra!" And the moment Satprem began to recite the mantra, the whole place
  exploded - blown to smithereens. An instantaneous deliverance. A few months later (or it may have been a few years), P.
  came to see Satprem at night with a bouquet of flowers and a smile, as if to announce that he was taking on a new body.
  
  --
  I haven't really found a question....
  (Satprem reads the following aphorism.)
  71 - A thought is an arrow shot at the truth; it can hit a point, but not cover the whole target.
  --
  choosing which road to take home!
  33In fact, without knowing anything, Satprem had sensed a kind of warrior, very luminous and white, reminding him of the
  god Kartik, son of the Universal Mother, armed with a spear. Later, Mother said that her vital being was a "diamondwarrior."
  --
  There, that's all....
  Mon petit... (Mother gazes a long time at Satprem).
  For me, you know, japa means a moment when all physical life is EXCLUSIVELY for the Divine.
  --
  February 13, 1962
  (After listening to Satprem read several Playground Talks40 to be published in the Ashram Bulletin.)
  It's easy reading, it won't tax their brains.
  --
  What remains is an impression, not the precise knowledge.
  43In fact, in the Agenda conversations of 1958 and '59 (never noted by Satprem because he believed them too "personal"),
  Mother mentioned this as one of the main reasons for encouraging his tantric discipline. He even set out for the Himalayas,
  --
  It has made a tremendous change for this body, as though I had abruptly gotten out of a very tight
  47Unfortunately, Satprem didn't keep Mother's reply, nor the long story she told afterwards about squabbles among certain
  Ashram people. Only the end of the conversation still exists.
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to Satprem read the Playground Talk of March 28, 1956, in which a child asks:
  "How can understanding be increased? " Mother had replied: "By increasing consciousness, by going
  --
  After
  a note written by Satprem:
  
  --
  No, you have to be a saint, mon petit! (Mother laughs and laughs.)
  (Satprem grimaces)
  Yes, I know - neither am I!
  --
  Yes, Mother. (Pavitra leaves.)
  (To Satprem:) It's a shame - I just can't take them seriously!
  Here (Mother gives flowers): this one is magnificent.... And how are your pigeons [some white
  --
  March 11, 1962
  (Satprem suggests he read certain past Agenda conversations to Mother. She refuses:)
  You know, I've almost felt like telling you that all this Agenda stuff isn't meant for circulation. It's only
  --
  ***
  (Mother listens to Satprem read the July 11, 1956 Talk on the vital world. She refuses to have it
  published in the "Bulletin".)
  --
  You're in a bad mood; oh yes, I could see it from far away.
  (Satprem voices various complaints, then adds.) And then to top it off, the other day you tell me this
  Agenda isn't interesting either, that it's not worth keeping. So what am I doing here?
  --
  of purpose in life. You said the very thing that hurts the most!
  (Mother gazes at Satprem for a long time)
  Petit....
  --
  existence. Even so, she went down to the balcony on the 18th and 20th of March, which were to be the
  last times. She has not left her room since then. All her conversations with Satprem will henceforth
  take place in her upstairs room. The latest attack occurred the previous night, April 2-3, and took the
  --
  April 20, 1962
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  April 20, 1962
  --
  Your child,
  Signed: Satprem
  
  April 28, 1962
  (Letter from Mother to Satprem)
  April 28, 1962
  Satprem, my dear child,
  It would be good to get moving again on the book.
  --
  May 8, 1962
  (Note to Mother from Satprem)
  Among other things, X writes:
  --
  ***
  (Satprem then reads to Mother his notes from the May 13 conversation and asks for further details on
  the April 13 experience:)
  --
  80On April 3, Mother said: "I am no more in my body."
  81The experience of April 13, which Satprem had mistakenly called the "descent" towards the body-consciousness.
  
  ***
  (Somewhat later, Mother gives Satprem the old desk-calendar page on which she had noted the
  experience of July 24-25, 1959 - the first meeting with Sri Aurobindo in the subtle physical - along
  --
  ***
  (Mother then starts working on the next Bulletin. She asks Satprem to speak slowly and distinctly:)
  There's a sort of universal cloud between me and other people - I seem to see through a veil and hear
  --
  (The beginning of this conversation, unfortunately not kept, dealt with certain instances of human
  ugliness. The topic, in fact, was Satprem's break with X who had been his guru for the past few years.
  The reasons for this rupture may one day be told, but it should be stressed right now that the fault did
  not really lie with X, whom Satprem continued to respect, but with a group of schemers at the Ashram
  who fastened onto X in the hope of god knows what "powers." It is perhaps just as well that the human
  "ugliness" here in question has vanished from Satprem's records, for - although it did come up again
  immediately after Mother's departure - it concerned only the Ashram disciples. All the details and all
  --
  Undated (end of May) 1962
  (Letter from Mother to Satprem regarding his difficulties with X)
  Wednesday
  Satprem, mon cher petit,
  ......
  --
  So - what about your book?
  (The subject here is a letter, no longer extant, in which Satprem expresses his desire to go write his
  new book85 in the Himalayas, far from present circumstances. These circumstances included poor
  --
  86With the work on the Bulletin and other Ashram publications, translating Sri Aurobindo, working on this Agenda, writing
  his own books and doing many hours of japa, plus other tasks besides, Satprem had been working something like fifteen
  hours a day (except when he ran off somewhere - and even then ...) for eight years nonstop.
  --
  sorts of things; and above all, I think the main reason is that you have no desire to - it's no fun for you!
  (Satprem laughs in complete agreement)
  I was brought up by an ascetic, a stoic; my mother was a woman like an iron bar, you know. When my
  --
  ***
  (Mother then asks Satprem various questions about his japa, and, after a very long silence during
  which she seems to be elsewhere or "looking" into the distance, continues:)
  --
  Very well, petit.
  (Mother looks at Satprem) I wonder if I can spread the "contagion" a little!
  I tried last night. I'll try again.
  --
  Will there always be a world like the one we know?
  97In putting this question, Satprem was thinking in particular about Madame Thon, who, rather than going to get her
  sandals, made them come to her.
  --
  99This is what Mother calls "shifting the needle of consciousness": "When people who are depressed or in despair come to
  see me," she once told Satprem, "all I have to do is slightly shift the needle of consciousness, and they go away happy. Out
  of habit, unfortunately, their state returns." (See Agenda I, February 25, 1958, p. 148.)
  --
  June 9, 1962
  (In the course of the preceding conversation, Satprem had thought that rather than a subjective
  change, a change in one's attitude towards things, there should be an objective change, a power
  --
  
  (Unexpectedly, this conversation led into the subject of Satprem's break with X, who had been his guru
  for the past few years. Here then, briefly, is the story behind the rupture: No sooner had Satprem
  brought X to the Ashram than a swarm of disciples threw themselves at him. Conspicuous among these
  were the moneymen, the same wheelerdealers who, eleven years later, after Mother's departure, were
  to reveal their ambitions in Auroville as well as Pondicherry. Satprem's somewhat straightforward
  manner soon got in the way of their schemes. He had a deep affection for X and when he repeatedly
  --
  supposedly said, he tried in all innocence to put X on his guard against the false reports and dishonest
  people who were wronging him. But instead of listening to Satprem and understanding that he spoke
  out of love, X - with all his Tantric power behind - flew into a violent rage against him, as if he had
  been casting a slur on X's prestige. Satprem then broke with X, but not without sorrow.)
  Anything new?
  --
  Nothing at all.
  But you have a letter there (Mother sees an envelope on the floor next to Satprem).
  I don't know what it is; it came just this morning and I haven't opened it.
  --
  He has been put in contact with a dangerous Grace - some graces are dangerous - I knew it from the
  104The final reckoning for the others isn't known, but for Satprem this incident resulted in definitively and exclusively
  binding him to Mother, and in particular made him grasp the futility of tons of discipline that simply imprison you more
  solidly within a "realization" - for all realizations are prisons, save only the Supramental, which is light as air. As for the
  wheelerdealers, who in order to continue scheming in peace wanted to keep X apart from Mother and Satprem ... they seem
  to have succeeded in their devious intention.
  --
  Something else....
  Only one thing depends on the body: speech, expression... who knows?... (Mother gazes at Satprem
  for a long time, as though she were considering an unknown possibility.)
  --
  suddenly, in the midst of it all, I remembered you: "Why, he wants to see!" So I told that being, "Go
  show yourself to Satprem, show him you are here."
  I wondered if you saw anything....
  --
  air: "Enough shilly-shallying, no more vacillating, it is time."
  "Go find Satprem," I said. "Show yourself to him."
  You didn't see anything?
  --
  people and many things, as if to complete my knowledge. Some of these visions are amusing, new and
  108Satprem had not "seen" anything, but during his japa he suddenly had the "impression" of a tall warrior standing next to
  him; as it was only an "impression " he attached no importance to it. What he wanted was to see, just as one sees a table or a
  --
  That would be a shame. But I can easily come more often, if for you it's not....
  (Mother takes Satprem's hands)
  ***
  As Satprem is about to leave:
  
  --
  
  (Mother gives Satprem an old note to keep - unfortunately, he does not recall exactly what it was - one
  of those little scraps of paper, scattered about almost everywhere, on which Mother would jot down
  --
  118Somewhat in the manner of Tantric yantrams, but using words charged with force instead of geometric symbols. Mother
  once told Satprem that from time to time she would "recharge" these little scraps of paper by looking at them or simply
  keeping them on the table next to her.
  --
  bodies JUST TO HAVE THAT. 128 But not many of them - they were so fully aware of their own
  125Some days later, Satprem again brought up the above passage, asking whether the Mother hadn't been active on earth
  since the beginning of time and not merely "with this present incarnation of the Mahashakti." The reply: "It was always
  --
  humankind."
  127Satprem subsequently asked Mother:
  You almost seem to be saying that during the Vedic era there was no divine presence in man!
  --
  the Vedanta and the devotees of Krishna, it is the god within: they had a direct contact with the god within (as in the Gita).
  128Shortly afterwards, Satprem asked:
  When a god takes a human body it must be terrible for him. Or does his divinity become quite veiled to him?
  --
  July 7, 1962
  (Mother listens to Satprem read some passages from his new book on Sri Aurobindo. The first book,
  Sri Aurobindo and the Transformation of the World, was judged "abstract and nebulous" by the Paris
  --
  of their pocket and....
  (Satprem makes a discouraged gesture)
  No, no, don't stop, go on, finish it. But they may ask you to cut it (Mother laughs) - some passages will
  --
  ***
  (A little later, the subject of the increasing scarcity of the tapes Satprem uses to record these
  conversations comes up. It should be mentioned that Mother has never wanted to use the Ashram's
  --
  ... And then after all, if it's lost, it's lost! It will have been the Lord's decision, so it doesn't matter.
  134Mother was right (in part!). Satprem's second book was refused by this same publisher, then accepted by another.
  
  --
  (how shall I put it?)... I deliberately, out of habit, thought of you. "Must this [the operation with the
  sword of light] be done with Satprem too?" I asked. There was no answer and so far nothing has come.
  When I think of you it always takes me into a very crystalline and luminous region - very
  --
  ***
  (Mother listens to Satprem read a passage from the last conversation in which she says: "This is the
  radical difference since the experience of April 13: there is nothing but the Lord. All the rest... what is
  --
  137Looking at it now (1979), this "dream" doesn't seem to be from the subconscient but actually from the subtle physical,
  with that whole crowd of people relentlessly assailing Mother and exhausting her (and pushing Satprem away, besides). But
  DESPITE the crowd, Satprem crossed through and came up "very close" to Mother, which concurs with her vision.
  "Dressed as a Sannyasin" means in his essentiality, divested of day-to-day material circumstances.
  --
  candle; well, there was no snuffer, it was you exactly, same features, same expression, but... intense,
  intense. And you were looking at me (Mother makes a gesture showing Satprem peering right into her
  face), as if to say, "Ah! So that's what you look like." (Laughter.)
  --
  
  (Mother listens to Satprem read a passage on mental silence from his manuscript on Sri Aurobindo.)
  It's very good.
  --
  believe there has ever been an example of such a (how can I put it?)... such a total success: a miracle. It
  152Mother is referring to a letter of Sri Aurobindo's which Satprem had quoted in his manuscript: "... in the calm mind, it is
  the substance of the mental being that is still, so still that nothing disturbs it. If thoughts or activities come, they do not rise
  --
  Oh, so he too knew you were predestined! If he saw you, he knew it.
  154The former governor of "French India" with whom Satprem came to work in the Pondicherry government. Actually,
  Satprem most probably saw Sri Aurobindo in 1946 and not in '48.
  
  --
  July 31, 1962
  (At the start of this conversation, Mother listens to Satprem read an unpleasant letter he has just
  received from P.A.L., his Paris publisher.)
  --
  ***
  (Mother listens to a passage from Satprem's manuscript concerning the vital and the mechanism by
  which vibrations enter one's being.)
  --
  161Mother comments on this sentence in the conversation of August 11.
  162Satprem later remarked to Mother that it should be "is" instead of "was," since "the two things are simultaneous."
  The two movements are simultaneous, so it's "staying inside is," no?
  --
  No, it's not work!
  163In fact, the coordinated "whole" will begin to emerge in 1975, when Satprem writes the trilogy, Mother. It will be "one
  thing after the other" right up to the end, with no links: the virgin forest.
  --
  August 8, 1962
  (Mother listens to Satprem read a passage from his manuscript.)
  It's very good.
  --
  tension you feel when the door to the psychic being is shut and you push, push, push to get to the other
  167Mother's cheek is swollen from an abscessed tooth.... Note that Satprem had assumed that "I never thought this would
  have any consequences" referred to the visit from the old formation. Mother corrected: "It is subtler than that! I didn't think
  --
  surroundings - that's nothing. In 1920, for example, I had an experience of that type, which resulted in
  168Later, Satprem asked if this "and so" was connected to what precedes it - if the old formation was connected to the
  vision of the future. Mother answered: "I think it is connected. I am not sure, but I think it is. I have the feeling that this
  --
  All right then, keep on with your book. It's good, much better than you think! (gesture of denial
  from Satprem) Yes, yes, I know what you mean, "definitive things" - it's like me and my definitive
  transformations! We must learn how to wait. Later on, it will come.
  --
  August 11, 1962
  (Satprem asks for an explanation of this sentence from August 4: "... it is easier to feel wider, higher,
  vaster than the world, THAN AN INDIVIDUAL. For it is easier to take everything in, to embrace and
  --
  manner (in the body, all this is in the body), with a formidable sensation of power (so much so that in
  the middle of the experience I suddenly thought, "I have to tell this to Satprem tomorrow..." - right in
  the midst of the experience!). And THE Vibration seemed so utterly present ("present"... I have the
  --
  August 14, 1962
  (Satprem did not keep any record of his questions at the beginning of the following conversation, nor
  does he exactly remember the circumstances that led to it. It seems that he wanted to write a letter to X,
  his former Tantric guru, or meet him, to explain what had happened and, in fact, to tell X that he still
  held him in deepest affection, despite external circumstances and Satprem's outward break with him.)
  ... One must never go back; one must always go forward.
  --
  human thing - it's nonsense. That's how it is, though. He is what he is and has been all along - he has
  never pretended to be anything else. But (with an ironic smile for Satprem) the imagination has done a
  lot of gilding where there was nothing to begin with, and then through circumstances (which always
  --
  that, there's a very supple inner play, for it spreads out like this (Mother makes a gesture of diffusion or
  173In fact, Satprem's final break with X will come only two years later, in 1964.
  
  --
  August 18, 1962
  (Concerning Satprem's new book on Sri Aurobindo, Mother foresees that again many cuts will be
  necessary, and emphasizes that the main point is to prevent the publisher from entrusting the book's
  --
  August 25, 1962
  (Satprem complains that he finds it difficult to write his book. Mother concentrates for about fifteen
  minutes, then says:)
  --
  would often go strolling by the sea.
  178This coincides strangely with the turn in Mother's yoga, as though from this time on Satprem would be deprived of all
  his inner promenades and forced to stay in the body.
  --
  (It is extremely unfortunate that the beginning of this conversation, which would have thrown a clear
  light on what follows, was not kept. As far as Satprem remembers, the subject was his sleep. It seems
  Mother was saying that while his "strolls by the sea" took place during sleep and by passing into
  --
  September 5, 1962
  (Before reading his manuscript on Sri Aurobindo to Mother, Satprem asks her to correct any
  inaccuracies in the text, since he doesn't have the direct experience of everything he speaks of.)
  --
  ***
  (Satprem reads a passage from his manuscript in which he speaks of illnesses, including "yogic
  illnesses," that can result from some inner discrepancy when the various parts of the consciousness are
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads a passage relating to the "subtle physical " and exteriorization; among
  other things, he cites the experience of D., who, when he exteriorized for the first time, was
  --
  anything! Just the certainty that it's the only thing worth doing.
  But don't you see, mon petit: the unwavering Light above you... (Mother gazes above Satprem's head).
  Thousands of people would give anything for that!
  --
  ***
  (Just before leaving, Mother makes a remark about someone, and as Satprem doesn't seem to believe
  his ears - he didn't want to believe in such ugliness and didn't even note it down - Mother adds:)
  --
  182The Kumbhamela: when hundreds of thousands of ascetics and pilgrims go to bathe in the Ganges.
  183Kumkum: a red powder used in ceremonies. Satprem used to wear a red triangle between his eyebrows.
  
  --
  September 15, 1962
  (Satprem reads a passage from his manuscript in which he mentions the difference in luminosity of the
  various planes of consciousness. Mother interrupts him to add.)
  --
  ***
  (After listening to a passage in Satprem's manuscript on nonviolence and Gandhi, Mother makes
  another brief remark:)
  --
  ADDENDUM
  (Short extract from the passage in The Adventure of Consciousness that Satprem just read to Mother:)
  ... In the middle of the First World War, Sri Aurobindo noted with prophetic force: The defeat of
  --
  September 26, 1962
  (After listening to a passage from Satprem's manuscript:)
  It's very good!
  --
  ***
  (Later, Mother tries to remember a word that struck her while listening to Satprem read his manuscript
  on Sri Aurobindo:)
  --
  ***
  A little later, Satprem returns to
  the previous conversation on the gods:
  --
  We can't talk about it, we can't say anything; whatever we say about it is nonsense! Of course it's
  190In fact, Satprem was ever pursuing the same question: How far does the shift to the other vision change the vision of
  Matter - what does true Matter look like?
  --
  keeping quiet. You can't talk. As soon as you utter a word, poof! It all clouds over. It's useless.
  But physically, for instance, you see this object [Satprem picks up a paperweight]. Now, I see it in a
  certain way - but you, with a supramental consciousness?...
  --
  (silence)
  But isn't what you're talking about here [Satprem points to the paperweight] what people call a
  "clairvoyant" vision?
  --
  October 24, 1962
  (After listening to Satprem read his manuscript Mother enters into a long meditation.)
  He always comes here when you read. And such peace is created when he's here, such peace;
  --
  
  few passages. Satprem noted down the missing parts from memory, and Mother then supplemented his
  notes with a number of comments and additions.)
  --
  painting - and such colors!... One can get to that world directly from the vital, without going through
  197When she next saw Satprem, Mother added the following correction: "After you left, they came. It's not I who
  remembered - they MADE me remember! There was Saraswati saying, 'What about my sitar?' And Krishna, 'What about
  --
  ***
  (A little later, Satprem goes back to music, a subject from the previous conversation:)
  201Probably in March 1920, at the time Mao Tse-tung was writing The Great Union of the Popular Masses.
  --
  (long silence
  Mother tunes in to Satprem)
  You probably enter into the state of pure Existence. First mental silence, then pure Existence, Existence
  --
  202Sat: existence or being; Chit-Tapas: consciousness-energy; the third member of the trinity is Ananda: bliss.
  203Satprem has just turned thirty-nine.
  
  --
  delighted they'd be with the ones you have!
  (Satprem seems surprised)
  You don't call them "experiences" - it's always what we don't have that we call "experiences."
  --
  November 3, 1962
  (Mother asks Satprem how he is.
  He did not keep his reply.)
  --
  November 10, 1962
  (Mother listens to Satprem read a chapter from his manuscript entitled "Under the Sign of the Gods, "
  in which he speaks of the overmind's inadequacy for attaining the plenitude of evolution, Afterwards,
  --
  November 14, 1962
  (Satprem reads a passage from his manuscript describing the relation between the subconscient and
  the supraconscient, in which he says: "One cannot be healed unless one goes down to the very bottom;
  --
  move in the Communist plan of campaign to dominate and take possession first of these northern parts
  213All the same, Satprem did keep this conversation, being unable to censor Mother's words or to delete them from History
  - for where is the borderline between censorship and falsehood?
  --
  November 23, 1962
  (Satprem reads a passage from his manuscript in which he says in particular: "We cannot take one
  step up without taking one step down.")
  --
  
  (A little later, Satprem tells Mother how much Sujata misses seeing her.)
  I know; some people have even fallen ill. But I am at the mercy of such things, 223 you understand, that's
  --
  busy with the book. And Sri Aurobindo was pleased. When I saw him (I was there, seeing the two of
  you), I thought, "Well, if Satprem could see this (laughing), at least he'd be pleased for once."
  Well, yes!
  --
  November 30, 1962
  Another prophet! (Mother hands Satprem a typed sheet.) India is full of prophets. But this one is rather
  interesting because he's the first who seems to have seen this [Sing-Indian] war from the standpoint of
  --
  He seems to be a good man. He lives in Madras,
  (Satprem reads:230 )
  A. has a neighbor who is an educational officer (retired). He does serious Puja daily and has
  --
  December 12, 1962
  (Satprem tries to question Mother on the reasons
  for Sri Aurobindo's departure.)
  --
  234December 9 Darshan, anniversary of Sri Aurobindo's interment.
  235Rightly or wrongly, Satprem did not keep the recording of this conversation, not to obey Mother, for he was never very
  obedient, but because the words that follow rent his heart. He didn't know at the time how very true they all were.
  --
  December 15, 1962
  (Mother shows Satprem some pamphlets printed during Thon's time, "Fundamental Axioms of Cosmic
  Philosophy," which have just been found among some old papers.)
  --
  disequilibrium, naturally: that is, a deathless state, with no disintegration.
  (Satprem continues the reading:)
  "There is but one royalty, one aristocracy: the royalty and aristocracy of intelligence.
  --
  Very. I don't think it's worth wasting your time on. But it was interesting to find these first pages
  because... look at the symbol (Mother shows Satprem the first page).
  Yes, I saw it!
  --
  walking!... It was funny.
  (Mother hands a box to Satprem) F. and R. have come and she brought me some candied chestnuts
  from Paris....
  --
  
  After Satprem has read from his manuscript:
  
  --
  finished!
  (Satprem reads a passage from his manuscript dealing with the Ashram's "bright period" in 1926,
  when Mother had made an overmental creation and the gods were beginning to manifest.)
  --
  238This is the beginning of a phenomenon that will become quite acute over the years, as if an increasingly inexorable force
  were trying to swallow up Mother's conversations with Satprem - the story of the transformation, in other words - in favor
  of small parochial doings.
  --
  December 28, 1962
  (Satprem reads Mother one last passage from his manuscript:)
  Evolution does not move higher and higher, into an ever more heavenly heaven, but deeper and deeper;

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  --
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  --
  So I am listening to you now.
  (Satprem reads)
  81 - God's laughter is sometimes very coarse and unfit for polite ears; He is not satisfied
  --
  This is ONE kind - there are so many different kinds. For the body too, there are countless
  8In the next conversation, Satprem asked for some clarification of this passage, and Mother repeated her experience, adding
  some details and comments:
  --
  wasn't clear!
  (Satprem stares wide-eyed)
  And I explained it to you again.
  --
  January 18, 1963
  (Satprem suggests to Mother to publish in the next "Bulletin," of February, her entire talk on
  "God's laughter," and in particular the whole passage in which she said: "It's dreadful to take life
  --
  to amuse yourself with.
  (Satprem protests)
  Well, it gives you the pleasure of knowing what's going on - which isn't necessary. Now I know, I don't
  --
  There too, there is a constant ascent or progression in identification.
  (Mother suddenly turns to Satprem)
  You're not going to put all that in?!
  --
  (Towards the end of the conversation, Mother asks for the next aphorism for the "Bulletin" and if
  Satprem has any questions.)
  I'd like to ask you a question on death.
  --
  moment and open the book, I'll read it to you.
  Just put your finger.... Do you want a blade? (Mother gives Satprem a letter opener)
  (Satprem concentrates
  and opens the book)
  --
  - he spoke in Hindi, I think), asking me to take care of B. I said something in turn, and then thought
  34Satprem's Tantric guru.
  35Pranam: prostration.
  --
  There, mon petit.
  (Satprem lays his head
  on Mother's knees)
  --
  visibly perceptible (Mother touches her fingertips), you can almost see the vibration going through the
  fingers and into the head [of Satprem]. That's the difference: before, it was always the Consciousness,
  the Being working from above - now the body participates. This is different.
  --
  April 16, 1963
  (Satprem did not keep note of the beginning of this conversation or of the "personal" questions and the
  circumstances that led to the situation. It seems that X had invited Satprem to his place, in spite of their
  break, and wanted to continue with him the Tantric sadhana.)
  --
  Never.46
  46This is in fact incorrect. Satprem remembers occasions when, while playing in his room as a child, he saw his body
  quietly asleep in bed - only to rush back into it.
  --
  with such beings, you died. Within three days it was over - even before, within a day, sometimes. So
  47Mother had once told Satprem that he was in a kind of "white cube."
  48Mother means the experience when the link is cut off and one cannot reenter one's body (which means one is medically
  --
  April 22, 1963
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Rameshwaram, Monday, 22 April
  --
  With love,
  Signed: Satprem
  
  --
  April 23, 1963
  Satprem, mon cher petit,
  Your letter has just come. It only confirmed what I had seen and FELT. The last two nights were
  --
  As soon as I can decently leave, I shall weigh anchor.
  Signed: Satprem
  
  April 25, 1963
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Rameshwaram, 25 April '63
  --
  I am at your feet
  Signed: Satprem
  (Excerpt from a letter to Sujata)
  --
  ............
  Signed: Satprem
  
  April 29, 1963
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Rameshwaram, Monday, 29 April
  --
  With love,
  Signed: Satprem
  
  --
  place in the body - it is the battlefield, it is the field of victory, it is the Defeat, it is the Triumph, it is
  everything. So I noted the experience down. (Mother hands a slip of paper to Satprem):
  "The
  --
  Let's see.
  (Satprem pulls out a box)
  It's turned completely yellow.... Does it matter?
  --
  I'll write it for you.
  (Satprem draws the Tantric diagram
  he has been instructed to do 72 times
  --
  I hope it won't tire you out any more.
  (as Satprem is about to leave)
  Do you think your machine [the tape recorder at the other end of the room] has picked up the music?57
  --
  
  58When Satprem later read to Mother the text of this conversation, she remarked, "Scientists will deny it, they will say I am
  talking nonsense; but that's because I don't use their language, it's just a question of vocabulary."
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads out an aphorism:)
  93 - Pain is the touch of our Mother teaching us to bear and grow in rapture. She has three
  --
  
  (Just before leaving, Satprem rests his forehead on Mother's feet. The previous time, when Satprem
  had made the same gesture, Mother, who was standing then, had lost her balance and almost fallen.)
  --
  May 22, 1963
  (This conversation took place a few days after Satprem had a violent attack of an infectious "illness.")
  
  --
  much better.
  (Mother gives a rose to Satprem)
  And this one for Sujata: open like her heart.
  --
  May 25, 1963
  (Regarding a letter from a personal friend of Satprem at the Editions du Seuil, who hints that the
  second manuscript on Sri Aurobindo ["The Adventure of Consciousness"] will also be refused: "I do
  --
  There was something happening.... I was brushing it away when something said to me, "If you don't tell
  this to Satprem, it will be lost forever." But I was already erasing it, so now I don't remember what it
  was....
  --
  June 26, 1963
  (Regarding Satprem's Tantric yantram)
  I made an experiment: writing the letter OM. When you have written it four, five, six times, it becomes
  --
  again.
  (Then Mother starts writing from memory Satprem's yantram with its nine figures, in the prescribed
  order. A few days earlier, Mother had done it without a single mistake; today she stops in the middle:)
  --
  Little Mother,
  I had a dream this afternoon. I told it to Satprem, who said I should write to you about it.
  I was on a staircase that looked like the one leading to the meditation room. Two Ashram girls,
  --
  started downstairs. The staircase has become narrow. The door is shut and a dark-looking guard is
  73Satprem has entire pages written and rewritten in Sanskrit by Mother.
  
  --
  ***
  (Just before Satprem leaves Mother speaks suddenly:)
  There is a boat being built (the symbol of the yoga, obviously), it's made entirely of pink clay, and what
  --
  (This conversation took place a few days after the new Pope, Paul VI, was enthroned. Mother had
  asked Satprem to erase the recording, except for a few fragments, but he thought it fit to retain at least
  its integral transcription.)
  --
  It's better than the last one.
  (Mother hands the photo to Satprem) So, what do you have to say?
  You should be the one to say!
  --
  several archbishops and a cardinal - well, one of those "old French families"). "But at night," she told
  77Mother is referring to Satprem's "worries" in the face of Catholic expansionism.
  
  --
  ***
  (Later, the subject is the English translation of Satprem's recent book on Sri Aurobindo:)
  I think E. will be able to find a public over there, in America especially - more than in France.
  --
  individual is quite capable of ordering the excommunication of something he considers and KNOWS to
  be true - that's just what you're seeing in this photo [Satprem's sense of repulsion]. Naturally, in them
  the political spirit overrides everything else.
  --
  ***
  (Satprem reads Mother a previous conversation, of May 11, in which Mother said that the true mantra
  is not the one given you by a guru but the mantra that wells up from within spontaneously, like the cry
  --
  dark - a golden Light, absolutely immobile, with such an inner intensity of vibration that it's beyond all
  82A few days afterwards, as Satprem was referring to these "constructions," Mother interrupted him with this observation:
  "Last night, it wasn't that way! I spent more than an hour in all the possible theosophical groups, and they had magnificent
  --
  I intend to distribute this for August 15.
  (Satprem, in English:) Is it still hanging?
  (Mother laughs
  --
  (Mother laughs
  and so does Satprem)
  
  --
  Once the French translation is ready
  Satprem reads it back to Mother:
  
  Always a slight tinge of humor!
  (Satprem reads the French text up to:)
  "... to let it work there and fulfill itself as Mind descended into Life and Matter and has
  --
  But that's a long way ahead! (Mother laughs) Is that all?
  (Satprem reads the end
  of the French text)
  Apart from that, is everything all right?
  (Satprem answers with silence)
  (Laughing) We'll let the supramental descend and do its work!
  --
  ***
  (Shortly afterwards, Mother goes into meditation and Satprem follows her:)
  Do you still have a sensation of "descent"? A descent of force?
  --
  ***
  (As if "by chance," Satprem reads Mother an old conversation, of January 24, 1961, on the influenza
  epidemic in Japan during World War I.)
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads the conversation of May 22, 1963, in which he tells Mother how she cured him
  suddenly of an infectious disease, as though something suddenly "tipped over.")
  --
  96After "death" or at the time of "death."
  97Many years earlier, Mother had told Satprem a vision she had had of one of her bodies petrified in a Himalayan cave,
  near a route of pilgrimage.
  --
  (silence)
  98When Satprem suggested publishing this passage in the Bulletin along with the beginning of Mother's comment on the
  Aphorism, she observed, "I don't want to speak of that now, it isn't yet time. We need not tell them too clearly that the work
  --
  (Regarding an old "Playground Talk" of 1950 and noted from memory by a disciple, which Mother
  asks Satprem to scrap. The subject was Nirvana, which one was to reach - or so the notation said - by
  withdrawing all one's energies into the psychic being or soul.)
  --
  August 13, 1963
  (Note from Mother to Satprem)
  (This note came apropos of an old "Playground Talk," of December 21, 1950, which Satprem
  read Mother during the preceding conversation. Mother spoke in it of the "clear, precise and
  --
  existence.")
  Satprem,
  Here is what came to me for the Questions and Answers after you left, you will see if you can use it
  --
  It's about "renunciation."
  102It may be mentioned that at the time, Satprem had undertaken the systematic publication of the older Questions and
  Answers (Mother's talks at the Ashram Playground), which is why they will come up now and then in the Agenda.
  --
  August 24, 1963
  (Mother asks Satprem if he has prepared a question on the aphorism on "renunciation," which is to
  appear in the next "Bulletin." Then she adds:)
  --
  delivered a whole speech to you, and I even thought, in the middle of the night, "Well, that's just what I
  should tell Satprem tomorrow!"
  I told you that the only process I've known, and which recurred several times in my life, is to
  --
  It's interesting. If you want me to read it to you...
  (Satprem reads)
  ..."I had already told you about my misgivings.107 As to the motives for the decision, it always boils
  --
  ***
  (There follows a discussion between Mother and Satprem to decide whether Mother's comment on the
  last aphorism, on
  --
  August 31, 1963
  (Mother looks at Satprem for a long time)
  I saw a new thing in front of you.
  --
  ***
  After a meditation with Satprem:
  
  --
  Two years ago, when I was still going downstairs, when I used to see you in Pavitra's office.
  112In fact, the physical blow will come a year later and Satprem will nearly die from it.
  
  --
  And if you feel those defeatist vibrations, know that things are now a battlefield, a field of action,
  113Occultly, to see if there is a real threat over Satprem.
  
  --
  September 7, 1963
  (The beginning of this conversation was to disappear, but Satprem chanced on it on a second track
  of the tape-recording. He found it charming and inserted it back here. Quite often he deleted these
  --
  117A state of continuous exhaustion (which has lasted for three years now). In fact, medicine would have called it
  "tuberculosis," but Satprem did not believe in medicine.
  118It will break and dissolve a year later. As Mother will explain to Satprem later, the "transition" consisted in removing
  Satprem's entire vital being (which normally causes one to die) in small doses.
  
  --
  - (laughing) that'll be all the better for everyone!
  (Satprem does not seem too appreciative)
  This is how it happened: the other day, the doctor brought some canaries, a cage of canaries to show
  --
  ***
  (Before Satprem leaves, Mother gives him the latest issue of "World-Union," a magazine launched by
  some Ashram
  --
  reason for you to stay here.
  (Satprem protests wordlessly)
  Everything is possible to me, you know, absolutely everything, even the seemingly most contradictory
  --
  (On Mother's table are two double white hibiscus flowers called "Grace." Mother takes one and gives
  it to Satprem:)
  N. had a dream last night in which Sri Aurobindo gave her many things, then I came and gave her two
  --
  relaxation?
  (Satprem nods his head... silence)
  The last two days, Sri Aurobindo was here all the time, all the time. Constantly, constantly mingled
  --
  ***
  (Satprem first decided not to publish in full the following conversation on Tantrism. Then, after
  Mother's departure, when he saw that same Tantrism trying to spread through Auroville, he changed
  --
  part (!) There you are.
  [Satprem cannot believe what Mother has just told him:] It was a will coming from him? It wasn't
  someone else who used that substance?
  --
  October 26, 1963
  (Pondicherry has just been hit by a cyclone and Satprem by a strange fever.)
  Did you feel anything during the cyclone? No, nothing particular?
  --
  October 30, 1963
  (On the occasion of Satprem's birthday Mother writes the following message:)
  "A
  --
  consciousness in the cells - are you conscious of your cells?
  (Satprem shakes his head)
  
  --
  You must be having revelations without even noticing them! You have all this here (gesture above
  Satprem's head), it's full of revelations, mon petit! And there you are, trying to see with the eyes of the
  vital, to have experiences in the subtle physical, all kinds of things, which cannot even come because
  --
  Do you believe in Muses?
  In Muses?!... [Satprem is taken aback]... I believe in inspiration.
  Because I saw... It was so precise, so concrete, material, that for a moment I wondered whether it was
  --
  
  137Satprem is at the moment working on the final revision of his book on Sri Aurobindo.
  
  --
  Is it worth the trouble?!
  (Satprem does not agree)
  If the expression becomes clear enough to be understandable, the present phase of the experience may
  --
  December 21, 1963
  (Regarding the "joys" of Tantric discipline, when Satprem was still at his seven thousandth, or was it
  seven hundred thousandth, Tantric yantram. Satprem unfortunately did not keep the beginning of this
  conversation.)
  --
  
  (Note from Mother to Satprem)
  Satprem, mon cher petit,
  On the 31st I will see you in the music room, and I would like Sujata too to come at 10 A.M.,
  --
  That's enough, no?
  (To Satprem:) What do you say, you there? Is that enough or do you want to hear more?
  It depends. If you're tired...
  --
  Did I give you everything? Did I give you the second calendar [with a photograph of Mother,
  printed in Calcutta]? The other one, he [Satprem] didn't like it.
  (Sujata:) You're too stern, little Mother!
  Ah, there we are again! But I wasn't stern: I was in contemplation!
  (Satprem:) A stern contemplation.
  (On the second calendar,
  --
  eyes were good, it would do, but they're no good, the poor things (I can't speak ill of them, they've
  served well, but anyway...). Or else, he [Satprem] would have to correct directly on my manuscript, but
  that he won't do.
  --
  
  149Indeed, Satprem asked Mother few questions, but he WAS a question.
  

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  Undated, 1964
  (Note from Mother to Satprem)
  The old dreams of
  --
  It was the same thing with you - I saw that. He regards you like this (gesture of looking down on
  Satprem), and then, you're not a pundit (!), you haven't had the religious education of the country - he
  regards you as a beginner, he isn't at all conscious of where your mind is, of where your mind can
  --
  He thinks I act the way I do because I am incompetent.
  (Satprem laughs in disbelief)
  No, I am not imagining things: I know! He said that thing (had Sri Aurobindo been here, he would have
  --
  will find the fullness of their being only when, Truth having been fulfilled on earth, divine Love will be
  able to manifest purely - that's why I called you Satprem. And there are other people, whom I know
  very well, who appear to be at the other end (how can I put it?) of the realization of their character
  --
  But anyway, She is the one. I simply found a sentence and I thought, "This is just right for
  Satprem." You understand, I feel it, I know those things, because I feel which Force or Power is acting
  - when I am with one person or another, there is always something that is the witness and watches the
  --
  A little later,
  before Satprem leaves:
  
  --
  room!
  (Satprem, in disbelief:) No!
  I assure you, it sounds like a joke, but it's true! The supplies were cut - more as a demonstration than as
  --
  February 13, 1964
  (Satprem kept note of the following conversation despite its episodic character, for it is, alas, a good
  illustration of the kind of innumerable microscopic "avalanches" that assailed Mother from every side,
  --
  February 15, 1964
  (After various remarks or observations which, unfortunately, Satprem did not keep:)
  Ah, to work now! (Mother laughs) One plays all the time... one has the feeling that life is nothing but
  --
  (Then the question comes up of Mother's photograph with a veil and the date when it was taken. That
  photograph is to be included in Satprem's book on Sri Aurobindo, and Mother had said to date it
  1914.)
  --
  Oh! Do you know where it is?...
  (Satprem looks for the passage in vain)
  
  --
  Just before
  Satprem leaves:
  
  --
  ***
  (Just before Satprem leaves, regarding the recent publication of "Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of
  Consciousness" at the Ashram, and its distribution:)
  --
  March 14, 1964
  (About a trip to France which Satprem has to make soon.)
  ...You'll be able to see your friend B. if you go there.
  --
  March 29, 1964
  (Note from Mother to Satprem)
  March 29, 1964
  Satprem, my dear child,
  People are raining like locusts!
  --
  April 8, 1964
  (This was to be the last conversation before Satprem's departure for France, from where he would
  return in July.)
  --
  that the adverse forces base themselves - always. All the adverse suggestions, all the adverse forces, all
  45A little earlier, Satprem had complained about some physical disorganization, which Mother had attributed to the work of
  transformation.
  --
  April 14, 1964
  (All of Satprem's letters to Mother having disappeared, as we already said, under lock and key in
  Pondicherry, we thought it fit to throw light on this journey to France by publishing, along with
  Mother's letters, a few fragments of Satprem's letters to Sujata.)
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  Paris
  --
  April 19, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  Paris
  --
  
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  Paris
  --
  April 25, 1964
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  Satprem, my dear little child,
  Here is your second letter. I didn't answer the first one because of my eye, which needed complete
  --
  April 29, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  Paris
  --
  May 2, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  St-Pierre
  --
  May 14, 1964
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  Satprem, my dear little child,
  This onslaught of doubts49 you are referring to is part of the general work. It is a very direct way of
  --
  With all my tenderness and blessings.
  49Not Satprem's, but the expression of a general skepticism.
  50A hemoptysis, of which Satprem took no notice.
  
  --
  May 15, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  St-Pierre
  --
  May 17, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  St-Pierre
  --
  May 21, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  St-Pierre
  --
  May 28, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  St-Pierre
  --
  June 4, 1964
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  Satprem, my dear little child,
  There you are! Since my last letter, I have seen you several times, often, even - every time that I go
  --
  June 27, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  Chatou-Chambery
  --
  June 28, 1964
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  (The following note has a curious history. Satprem had gone off on a journey to see his brother and
  upon his return, reaching the coast of Brittany, he saw in the sky what Breton sailors call a "wind
  foot," an immense white cloud shaped like an archangel with wings spread and no head. Satprem was
  so struck by that cloud, without knowing why, that he told his brother, "Look at that victorious angel
  coming our way!" Then they went inside. This letter from Mother was awaiting Satprem:)
  Take
  --
  July 4, 1964
  (From Satprem to Sujata)
  St-Pierre
  --
  July 13, 1964
  (Satprem is back from a three-month journey to France. Unfortunately, only a fragment of this
  conversation was kept.)
  --
  ***
  (Then the conversation turns to Satprem's brother. This person will appear several times in the
  Agenda, which is why we publish what concerns him.)
  --
  So, you did some good work in France.
  (Satprem protests: it is
  Mother who worked)
  To me, it doesn't make any difference!
  53He is the person who suddenly appeared before Mother during a meditation with Satprem (see Agenda I, October 30,
  1960, p. 459).
  --
  But the remarkable thing is that you are the only person to whom I can speak - not that I didn't try
  [during Satprem's trip to France], because I had the feeling that if certain things went away, it might be
  a pity. I tried with Nolini and Pavitra: nothing comes out, except a sort of mental transcription.
  When I called you Satprem, that's what I meant: you must certainly have the capacity to come into
  contact with That.
  --
  ***
  (Later, Satprem puts in order some loose papers of Mother's, fragments of notes, etc., and stumbles on
  these lines:)
  --
  July 31, 1964
  (Satprem files all sorts of loose scraps of paper - Mother's "notes" - and stumbles on this one, which
  he reads aloud:)
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem comes upon another note, the draft of a letter Mother wrote to a disciple,
  but never sent:)
  --
  ***
  (Satprem then explains to Mother the "mystery" of the tape recorder, which, four times in a row, did
  not work in Mother's room - Mother's recorded voice was very faint, as if vetted by something - while
  --
  ***
  Just before Satprem leaves,
  Mother comes to talk about money:
  --
  (By some quirk of the tape recorder (?) the following conversation, which is so important, was almost
  inaudible, as if veiled, and Satprem was unable to save the recording, though he was able to save his
  notes. It should be said that his tape recorder was quite patched up - Mother never wanted him to
  --
  August 29, 1964
  (Regarding the definitive break between Satprem and his Tantric guru, with whom he had worked for
  six years. The occasion for this break was a sort of repetition of what had happened two years earlier,
  i.e., a swarming little horde of businessmen and "disciples" in search of petty powers, against whom,
  once again, Satprem wanted to warn X, for he loved him in spite of everything. This break nearly cost
  Satprem his life, as will be seen later. Thus is it said that those things are fire.)
  ...I see in a very clear way that even in circumstances in which you seem to have made a mistake, even
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Mother asks what the next aphorism will be for her to comment on. Satprem answers
  that it is the story of Narada and of Janaka who practiced yoga while leading the ordinary human
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads Mother the first "Playground Talk" for the next Bulletin and tells her that the next
  Talk is about "exteriorization.")
  --
  September 2, 1964
  Satprem prepares to start the
  tape recorder, Mother stops him:
  --
  September 12, 1964
  (Satprem reads Mother an old "Talk" of February 24, 1951, in which she refers to the memory of past
  lives and the unbridled imagination of certain people.)
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads a passage in which Mother talks about young children who remember their
  
  --
  ***
  (From the same Talk from the past, Satprem reads a passage in which Mother tells the story of Queen
  Elizabeth, who, dying, received a delegation from the people in spite of her physician's protests: "We
  --
  ***
  Just before Satprem leaves,
  Mother shows him a stack of letters:
  --
  
  As Satprem is about to leave,
  regarding his next novel,
  --
  
  75In fact, Satprem wrote By the Body of the Earth or the Sannyasin two years later, in 1966. The first Sannyasin he
  conceived was like a Greek tragedy - quite implacable and, naturally, tragic.
  --
  (Mother looks above
  Satprem's head)
  It's well established, up there - it's very, very... it's becoming increasingly precise and clear. It is well
  --
  It was a very interesting result indeed.
  But if we look at it from another point of view, I had noticed - or rather WE [Mother and Satprem]
  had noticed - that X's presence or contact always brought conflicts, difficulties, a sort of struggle with
  --
  ***
  As Satprem prepares to leave,
  Mother inquires about his health:
  --
  ...And they fuss around. The subtle impression I get of it all isn't good.
  (Here Mother hands Satprem a letter of
  explanation from the author of the poster.
  --
  The body is learning its lesson.
  (Satprem prepares to leave)
  With this cold, I can't see anymore at all, not even to write.
  --
  ***
  (As Satprem reads back to Mother the last conversation, she stops him at the following passage: "It
  was a splendor! As if all of a sudden the physical world had become a solar world, splendid and
  89Satprem had suggested that some extracts from the last conversation be published in the Bulletin.
  
  --
  changed into something else, it would be magnificent!"
  (Looking at Satprem out of the corner of her eyes) It's very good - it's very good, it's a sure sign that
  one has emerged from one's ego.
  --
  It's curious.
  97Mother's movement and Satprem's.
  98Mother remains seated in front of her table during the meditations.
  --
  Germany. (To Sunil:) Don't you know how to play it?... No?
  (Sujata:) Satprem would very much like to learn to play some instrument, Mother, you know.
  (Satprem:) But not the harmonica!
  (To Sunil:) Did they tell you why I called you? No? Don't you know French anymore, tell me? - He
  --
  Ah, Nolini should be scolded for that - not me! (laughter)
  (To Satprem:) I'll see you Saturday - Saturday is Mademoiselle's birthday. How old will you be?
  (Sujata:) Thirty-nine.
  And he?
  (Satprem:) Forty-one.
  
  --
  (From Sujata to Mother, following a visit to Pondicherry's hospital)
  Little Mother, Satprem says he loves you dearly and he asked me how you are.
  Your child,
  --
  (Mother's answer)
  Sujata, tell Satprem that I love him very much and that I am with him all the time. If he follows Sri
  Aurobindo's advice, Live inside, he is sure to feel this.
  --
  December 23, 1964
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  Satprem, mon cher petit,
  Here is your book, just arrived from America.
  I am sending it to you with all my love so that it may be the sign of the arrival of perfect balance
  100Mother's Agenda had to be interrupted for more than a month, following a serious operation undergone by Satprem the
  day after this conversation.
  --
  End of December, 1964
  (From Mother to Satprem. The letter Mother answers here unfortunately disappeared along with the
  others.)

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  ***
  (A little later, regarding the serious operation Satprem has just undergone:)
  ...Don't let people eat you up.
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, about Satprem's illness. It may be noted that since his operation - for a
  complicated peritonitis - Satprem has been a victim of violent bouts of fever with fainting spells, as
  if the heart were giving way. Yet he walks about and goes on with his work. This Agenda will again
  be interrupted for more than a month, Satprem having to be taken to the Vellore hospital, 120 miles
  from Pondicherry.)
  --
  January 16, 1965
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  Saturday evening
  Satprem, mon cher petit,
  Today at noon, I spoke to the doctor about you, and he explained your case to me and told me what
  --
  January 24, 1965
  (From Mother to Satprem)
  (All of Satprem's letters from Vellore, like the others, unfortunately disappeared. Satprem had written
  to Mother asking for a mantra, especially since he had given up the Tantric discipline.)
  January 24, '65
  Satprem,
  Here is Ganesh who dances so you may be cured SOON.
  Tenderness
  6That "week" in the Vellore hospital was to last more than a month. Mother's letter astounded Satprem, as he did not believe
  in medicine; he held quite a grudge against Mother, without understanding that She perhaps had other, "educational"
  intentions. But in reality, during that month in Vellore, Satprem kept fighting not against the so-called "illness," but against
  the frightful atmosphere of death and suggestion of death that filled that hospital as in a medical Auschwitz.
  --
  Sujata, my dear child,
  I am with you always and with Satprem too. You must both be calm and trusting, all will be well.
  With all my tenderness
  Signed: Mother
  Learn, Satprem and you, to feel CONCRETELY my presence in your hearts. This is a wonderful
  opportunity to make this progress.
  --
  February 4, 1965
  (From Mother to Satprem in hospital)
  February 4, '65
  Satprem, mon cher petit,
  Your mind is still too critical, too anxious for traditional or classical accuracy. That is why you
  --
  February 19, 1965
  (Regarding the mantra Satprem asked for when he was in hospital but did not receive.)
  The mantra... Did you get my note?... Several times while walking for my japa, I sent you the mantra
  --
  heart, won't you? Nothing must come out.7
  (To Satprem:) Bring your chair nearer, stay very near, be quite at peace.... I explained the mantra to
  you several times, and finally, one day, I wrote the explanation, because it was coming back again and
  --
  
  7Since Satprem's illness, Sujata has accompanied him to see Mother, for he has been unable to carry the tape recorder. From
  now on and till the end, Sujata will participate in all the conversations.
  --
  thrust of the whole being, with as little thought as possible.
  I can give you this (Mother gives her note to Satprem). You can keep it.
  You know the three words....
  --
  ***
  (A little later, the conversation turns to the events of February 11, when during Satprem's absence the
  Ashram was attacked by rioters and several buildings were looted and set on fire.)
  --
  ***
  As Satprem is about to leave, regarding his illness:
  
  --
  
  Have you read my answer in the last Bulletin? (Mother hands the text to Satprem)
  Those who wish to help the Light of Truth to prevail over the forces of darkness and
  --
  and it has become almost automatic.
  10Satprem remembers that several years earlier, Madame A. David-Neel had in a letter already advised Mother to leave
  Pondicherry (it was Mother herself who told this to Satprem around or a little before 1960), because, she predicted, Mother
  would be "assassinated by her own disciples." That letter must still exist in the Ashram's archives.
  --
  There's a beautiful aphorism.
  (Satprem reads:)
  109 - All things seem hard to man that are above his attained level and they are hard to his
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem asks Mother if he should "officially" inform his Tantric instructor that he has given up
  that discipline and now prefers to the Tantric attitude of personal effort that of abandon to the Force
  --
  And no thought, nothing: simply vibrations.
  So, what's wrong?!... (Mother laughs while looking at Satprem) Yes, that's it, it's a sort of
  "dullness."
  --
  explanation of the principle, if I may say so, on which that inspection was based, and when the
  explanation was given, I said, "Well, let's go and see Satprem's home, then." And I even had a sort of
  feeling that you didn't know (mind you, in fact I knew nothing about it, it's just what I saw last night)
  --
  May 8, 1965
  (Every time Mother receives Satprem, she translates one line from "Savitri" that has been copied for
  her in large characters. Today's line is from the debate between Death and Savitri's heart:)
  --
  don't know.
  (To Satprem:) Your brother wouldn't be happy if he heard me!
  Yes, he would!
  --
  (Mother laughs) What you're saying isn't very scientific!
  (Satprem:) Her sinuses are in poor condition.
  So then, the surgeon gentleman will tell you, "We'll operate," (laughing) and the gentleman who isn't a
  --
  still belongs to the material field.28 But I don't think that's what Sri Aurobindo meant; I think he meant
  28When Satprem asked Mother whether this "something" was indeed the supramental Force, Mother answered this: "I'd
  rather not name it, because they will make a dogma out of it. It [this "something"] is what happened when what we called
  --
  It's quite peculiar, it doesn't help me anymore.... Is it clean? (Mother holds out the magnifying glass to
  Satprem) There seems to be a haze.
  Yes, it's clean.
  --
  rare, it's still rare.... Probably (laughing) there aren't many things worth seeing!
  30Not only did they think Mother deaf, but Satprem heard one of Mother's attendants tell him that the vagaries of her
  eyesight were due to cataract. Thus Mother was surrounded with people who thought her old and infirm or sick.
  --
  (Then Mother starts sorting old scattered notes on all manner of slips of paper. She holds out to
  Satprem a first slip:)
  What is it?
  --
  But the papers and pens depend on the place where I've written!
  (Satprem looks at a slip of paper, page 3, in ink, with another slip, page 2, of a different size, in pencil,
  and no page 1.) I keep them in every corner of every room!
  --
  Soon afterwards, Mother
  asks Satprem to read a letter
  she has just written:
  --
  told. For instance, "I didn't know we weren't allowed to..." (Mother questions herself for a moment)
  What isn't allowed?... (Then, laughing, she points to Satprem:) Smoking isn't allowed. And drinking
  alcohol isn't allowed, being married isn't allowed, except nominally, and so on. And then you have to
  --
  There, mon petit.
  36A little earlier, Satprem had returned to the attack and asked again for Mother's permission to stop his meat diet and
  return to simple vegetarian food. Mother had refused because of Satprem's state of health.
  
  --
  Of the force that will transform that into an acceptable substance.
  38Satprem meant that he found it hard to see how the new substance, nevertheless very different from Matter, could be
  prepared through gymnastics for the physical body.
  --
  born; and up to now I took a very secondary interest in it because I hadn't received anything direct.
  43Mother had already told Satprem many years earlier that the island of Great Britain was destined to disappear underwater.
  It is indeed remarkable that English experts made the following observation, as reported in India's Sunday Standard of
  --
  ***
  (Mother asks Satprem to read her a letter that has just come from the United States. The letter
  announces that someone who had been dying has miraculously regained the use of reason and
  --
  ***
  Before Satprem and Sujata leave,
  Mother again examines Sujata's
  --
  July 3, 1965
  After Satprem has read out
  the last "Comments on
  --
  It was so boring that I felt sick.
  (Satprem protests)
  Anyway, it doesn't matter.
  --
  
  (Satprem gestures to his
  chest, here and there)
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem proposes to Mother the publication of a few brief extracts from the previous
  and very interesting conversation on illnesses in "Notes on the Way," a new series started in the
  Ashram's Bulletin on Satprem's insistence. In fact, Satprem wanted the Ashram to benefit a little from
  the treasure of Mother's experience - at least a few drops of it. It was those "Notes on the Way" that
  --
  integral publication of the real Agenda, which they dared to declare "not genuine," so afraid were they
  of Mother's clear perception of the people around her and of the Ashram in general. Satprem
  remembers how much he had to insist with Mother to be allowed to publish those "Notes on the Way."
  --
  July 17, 1965
  (Regarding the last conversation, in which Satprem complained about his bad nights.)
  But I just can't understand why it's always that side that I remember, always the sewers, the filth....
  --
  ***
  (Satprem returns to the attack and asks Mother for her permission to publish some of these
  conversations in the "Notes on the Way":)
  --
  ***
  (A little later, Satprem proposes he could ask E. to buy magnetic tapes to record these conversations:)
  Poor E.! Her husband has ruined her.
  --
  ***
  Satprem rises to leave:
  
  --
  heavens! What a bad mood you're in, it makes me ill!" (Laughter)
  It's true, it's neither in this direction nor in that one (gesture from Mother to Satprem and from
  Satprem to Mother): it's all one. That's why I didn't say anything. Because our habit is to see like this
  (gesture from one to the other), but it's not true, it's not like that: it is a whole, which in everyone takes
  --
  
  Satprem rises to leave:
  
  --
  July 24, 1965
  (Satprem had written to Mother to ask her the meaning of a dream he had had, in which his brother
  abruptly came in and announced his son's death. It was an extremely vivid dream. The shock of
  emotion woke Satprem up.)
  I have got your letter.... I don't think it is premonitory. Do you have any news from there? If something
  --
  July 28, 1965
  (Satprem suggests the publication, among the quotations in the Ashram "Bulletin," of the text of an
  answer from Mother to a child. Mother shows as little interest as possible:)
  --
  So you can tell N. on my behalf that this is how I see the thing: a quite complete biographical and
  bibliographical note should be prepared to tell them, "Here is the gentleman Satprem is writing about."
  It could be published along with the book, or published in newspapers to announce the book (that's a
  --
  August 4, 1965
  (While sorting old notes of Mother's, Satprem comes across the following passage:)
  "Always listen to what the Lord of Truth has to tell you and let your action be guided by
  --
  ***
  (Before leaving, Satprem informs Mother that he has received a letter from the Vellore hospital asking
  him when he would come for new tests:)
  --
  ***
  (As he is about to leave, Satprem lays his forehead on Mother's knees and receives a mass of force. He
  probably appears stunned by the "avalanche," and Mother remarks:)
  --
  Oh, yes, I feel the Force!
  (Mother laughs at Satprem's tone) Good; then it's all right!
  But it is very interesting. It's growing stronger and stronger... day after day, month after month.
  --
  Every time I express it, it recedes farther into the past.
  Ah, I think we should take up Savitri.... (Mother looks at Satprem:) You have a question? Ask.
  No, I didn't have any question, I was immersed in what you were saying.
  --
  ***
  (Towards the end of the conversation, Satprem, who has been approached a second time about an
  article for a magazine, asks for Mother's advice.)
  --
  Insincerity. Because insincerity leads to ruin.
  67Satprem's article is published in addendum.
  
  --
  Why Sri Aurobindo?
  (an article by Satprem)
  On a December morning, almost twenty years ago, on the platforms of the Gare du Nord, a youth
  --
  OM
  Satprem
  Pondicherry,
  --
  ***
  Satprem prepares
  to leave:
  --
  there....
  (Mother gives Satprem
  a flower: a rose)
  --
  ***
  (Mother takes up the translation of "Savitri." Once or twice when Satprem speaks to her, she remarks
  that she cannot hear a thing.)
  --
  71Let us recall the last conversation (of August 18) in which Mother spoke of those glass halls as vast as the earth.
  Strangely, for several weeks, Satprem on his part has been immersed in the correction of sentences with the revision of the
  French translation of The Synthesis of Yoga.
  --
  September 4, 1965
  (About a second operation that Satprem should - supposedly - undergo. Mother refuses and advises
  some exercises:)
  --
  (the photo is placed on a small table not far from Mother). He is the one who is now leading the
  80Satprem's article on Sri Aurobindo, which will eventually be published in the magazine Synthses.
  81Revolutionary unrest against the military caste. Confiscation of British and American assets.
  --
  made to say things!
  (Mother gives Satprem
  a hibiscus flower called "Grace")
  --
  gives them a strength that these Europeans cannot have.
  (just before Satprem leaves)
  Clearly, circumstances are arranged to help us move on.
  --
  course, there is the question of strength: will they be strong enough to... But the point is established.
  (Satprem, in disbelief) It has entered their heads?
  Not all of them. It's enough if they are two or three - there are more of them than that.
  --
  92In inner contact with this organization.
  93Satprem means: luckily, because if Pakistan behaved and didn't force India to fight, the partition might last a long time.
  
  --
  I don't know, we shall see.
  (Mother holds out a hibiscus to Satprem) Here is a monumental "Grace," there are almost two
  together.
  --
  And your nights?
  (Satprem looks deeply disgusted)
  Oh, there's a whole work going on at night. Oh!... The whole petty subconscious working of habits,
  --
  October 20, 1965
  (Satprem had sent Mother a letter complaining about his lack of experiences, in particular the fact that
  he never saw Sri Aurobindo, except once eleven years earlier, and that in addition Mother told him she
  saw him only rarely. In the end Satprem wrote, "I wonder what I am doing here?")
  I am not going to eat you, don't be afraid!
  (Satprem's denial)
  Tell me, have you anything new to add? Has anything happened since you wrote?... Nothing. You are
  --
  October 30, 1965
  (Mother improvises on her organ for Satprem's birthday. The organ, long unused, gives a few creaks.)
  There.
  --
  
  102A disciple who was a friend of Satprem's; he had died insane seven or eight years earlier and Satprem had assisted him
  in a Japanese mental hospital.
  --
  November 10, 1965
  (Mother hands Satprem a brochure, "Spiritual Unity of India," in which quotations from Sri Aurobindo
  and Mother on the partition of India have been gathered, in particular Mother's declaration: "India
  --
  
  (Satprem:) She would like me to write tales - fairy tales.
  Do you know any fairy tales?
  (Satprem:) I'll make some up.
  Of course! I used to make up lots and lots of them!... Real fairy tales in which everything is so lovely,
  --
  ***
  Soon afterwards, Satprem sorts
  "old" Agenda conversations.
  --
  105The Adventure of Consciousness.
  106Mother asked Satprem to alter the following passage in which she was first referring to the Ashram. It is interesting to
  note what she saw for the Ashram, interesting too to note that she asked Satprem to cut and alter this passage, the original
  version of which we are giving here: "For a group such as the Ashram, for instance, in order for it to function really well,
  --
  December 1, 1965
  (Note from Mother to Satprem)
  Satprem,
  In the "Notes on the Way," there is a lot of pruning to be done.109
  --
  I can't hear, can't see, I am in an awful state.
  (Satprem persuades Mother
  not to work - long meditation)
  --
  Because as for me, I have no reason to get out of it [the meditation]. This way I feel the world is
  109Mother is referring to the conversation of November 27 which Satprem wished to publish at least in part in the Ashram's
  Bulletin.
  --
  (There follows a long and habitual discussion on the problem of the publication of Mother's words. As
  usual, Mother wants to cut everything out - "I don't want any I" - and as usual Satprem literally has to
  fight to salvage a few fragments here and there. The present instance concerns the "Notes on the
  --
  We can keep the complete text for those who are ready to see the whole.
  (Satprem protests)
  But mon petit, read the whole thing again for yourself, and tell yourself that all those who are ready to
  --
  (The discussion goes on and Mother again wants to cut out the whole end of the conversation of
  November 27 which Satprem wanted to publish in "Notes on the Way." It was about the double
  movement of Oneness and Multiplicity.)
  --
  No, it's a beginning of experience which isn't yet in its final form. I will say it better another time. A
  day will come when I will say it well. (Poking fun at Satprem) You'll have an opportunity to write it
  out well!
  --
  She [Sujata] will have less typing to do!
  (Satprem makes a face)
  
  --
  
  I have no roses left (Mother looks for a flower for Satprem), they took everything!
  
  --
  that he spent a very restless night and had a temperature. That's the latest news.
  (Mother hands V.'s letter114 to Satprem)
  "The operation is successful. Tremor of the right hand and leg have stopped. There is no
  --
  112King Mahendra and Queen Ratna.
  113As far as Satprem remembers. Mother envisaged a confederation of all the small Himalayan states (and even the Asian
  states) to guard against China. India was to be the leader of this confederation.
  --
  has to learn some things. We must learn. There is a lot to learn....
  Here (Mother hands Satprem a flower called "Grace"). We must hold tight to it, like that, you
  
  --
  December 25, 1965
  (About Satprem's mother, who has donated money to the Ashram:)
  Is it your money?
  --
  
  (Letter from Mother to Satprem, in answer to a letter from Satprem in which he said he was "half
  dissolved" and asked on which road he was or whether he was on any road at all, for he had "no sign"
  --
  Thursday morning
  Satprem, my dear little child,
  We will talk about that tomorrow morning.
  --
  December 31, 1965
  (About Satprem's recent letter to Mother:)
  Have you received my answer? (Mother makes a gesture of mental communication) No? I talked to you
  --
  A sign.
  119The "surprising fact" is that in the first years Satprem did have many experiences of all kinds, with quite conscious
  nights from the point of leaving his body. Then all those experiences suddenly stopped, as if he had been deliberately shut in
  --
  That's not exactly the point.... Yes, when it's in one of its fits, it's like that, but...
  (Mother takes Satprem's hands) To me, you are still very small and very young, you know.
  So tell me what you want to say.
  --
  adhere.
  (Satprem lays his head
  on Mother's knees)

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  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem, seeing the heap of papers on Mother's table, proposes to take some with
  him to reduce the pile.)
  --
  January 14, 1966
  (Following a "tourist" trip Satprem had to make in India for certain reasons.)
  Did you feel any difference?
  --
  January 31, 1966
  (Satprem's letters to Mother having disappeared, he does not remember what caused the "sadness"
  Mother refers to here, probably certain ways of being in life that he found hard to accept, or perhaps
  --
  
  unless it was the abyss. Satprem then asked Mother if he should not start writing a new book, "The
  Sannyasin," in which he would attempt to exorcize a certain refusal of life as it is.)
  --
  lags behind, and that's what causes an unease in you. So it's clear that writing is a good means
  13That will be eight years later, when Satprem will write his "trilogy" on Mother.
  14The first form of The Sannyasin, which was to be a sort of Greek tragedy, with chorus.
  --
  February 16, 1966
  About Satprem's mother:
  
  --
  ***
  (Regarding an incident of little importance, but significant nevertheless. Mother shows Satprem an
  envelope containing money and asks him whether she already gave him one.19 Mother did in fact give
  Satprem a blue envelope eight days ago.)
  I am in such a hurry when I do things.... For instance, when I have finished my morning work,
  --
  blue envelope, this big, and I remembered the smile with which you took it. Those two things were
  19Mother used to give Satprem twenty rupees every month ... to buy his cigarettes.
  
  --
  ***
  (Satprem then reads Mother an old Talk of April 17, 1951, and comes to a passage concerning the
  perfection of the physical instrument: "Physical perfection in no way and by no means proves that a
  --
  remains long in contemplation,
  then takes Satprem's hands.
  
  --
  a dead person living on earth."
  22Certain troubles had indeed recurred, which Satprem had not even mentioned to Mother.
  23The physical mind.
  --
  and become still. And it's going on. And in fact, while it was like that something came and told me (but
  all this wordlessly), "When Satprem is here, you will understand." Then there was tranquillity, because
  the moment was... (what shall I say?) very uncertain. And there was a sort of relaxing: "You will
  --
  April 9, 1966
  (About the book Satprem is writing, "The Sannyasin")
  I still see that vision I had.31 Strangely, it was one of the most unexpected visions, in the sense that I
  --
  April 13, 1966
  (About Satprem's new book, "The Sannyasin.")
  This morning again I got up more than half an hour late because of you!
  --
  The hands feel, they feel it's possible. They are so conscious of the Vibration - they feel that
  32This book should normally have been written four or five years earlier, and at the time Satprem saw it in the form of a
  Greek tragedy.
  --
  April 16, 1966
  (Mother shows Satprem a note she has entitled "The rungs of Love")
  The last "rung" is the absolutely pure Thing. And the power... the creative and transforming power of
  --
  
  Mother hands Satprem
  a brochure on Auroville
  --
  (Regarding very generous disciples who send soup packets to Mother, who in turn gives them to
  Satprem:)
  They are two old ladies, of German origin, but Jewish. In Germany, they still aren't kind at all; Hitler's
  --
  Oh, how I would like it to be true: when I put my hands here, like this (Mother lays her hands on
  Satprem's shoulders), it would heal!
  Because I feel such force in these hands! Such CONSCIOUS force - conscious, you understand:
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem sorts old conversations:)
  Are they old ones?
  --
  impression was: it's hopeless. Then, all of a sudden... all of a sudden... It's indescribable (gesture of
  36Satprem means that Death is a mask of "Him," of the Supreme.
  
  --
  May 18, 1966
  (After Satprem has read to Mother a first few fragments from the "Sannyasin")
  I like your way of writing.
  --
  Will you read it again for me? Read it again.
  (Satprem shakes his head,
  he is ashamed)
  --
  naturally, everything stops. But that's beside the point. Then, in that connection, he says he took that
  drug and he describes the effect (Mother shows Satprem a passage of the letter):
  "The second time, with a normal dose of LSD (lysergic acid), as I rose in that luminous
  --
  ***
  As Satprem prepares to leave:
  
  So do I have to wait till the book is finished before I can hear it?...
  (Satprem makes a face)
  You know, when I listen to you, I seem to be lying down, stretched out on something that moves
  --
  May 22, 1966
  (Satprem chances on notes of Mother's in a pile of files.)
  (Laughing) They are everywhere! Here, there, everywhere.... Once, Sri Aurobindo (I think it was in
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads to Mother a fairly long text, and ends up completely exhausted.)
  Are you tired?
  --
  And the body is increasingly conscious: it has a very acute perception of the vibrations coming
  39It was for the next Bulletin that Satprem read this Talk to Mother.
  
  --
  June 11, 1966
  (The conversation begins with the book Satprem is writing, which Mother "dictates" at night, but which
  Satprem has difficulty receiving.)
  Mon petit, I keep on writing! It's incredible! It has never happened to me. Fantastic things... But is it
  --
  (Soon afterwards, the question comes up of the publication of the previous conversation, of June 8,
  1966, in the appendix to the Playground Talk of April 19, 1951... fifteen years earlier. Satprem voices
  certain doubts, emphasizing the vast difference between the two texts.)
  --
  was amusing, and I said, "Oh, you are so conscious you come and talk to me!" But then you weren't
  conscious! Which means that this [Satprem's outer being] isn't conscious, but the other was: you came
  and talked to me.
  --
  (Mother looks at the child's
  letter and hands it to Satprem)
  "Sweet Mother,
  --
  V. asked me a question about the Americans and Vietnam, so I answered him (Mother looks very
  amused and hands the text of her answer to Satprem):
  Question
  --
  
  49After Satprem had left, Mother remained silent for a long time, then turned to Sujata and told her, "Strange, very strange,
  I've never seen a lotus bud bowing down." Then, as Sujata looked at her without understanding, Mother added, "The heart
  --
  energy and power of realization), is scandalized: he wrote to me yesterday, saying he couldn't take part
  in something that wasn't "purely democratic"!... So I answered him this (Mother hands Satprem her
  note):
  --
  
  (turning to Satprem with a smile)
  Do you think he hears me?
  Think not to plant on earth the living Truth
  51During the previous conversation, Satprem read out to Mother a few pages from The Sannyasin.
  
  --
  
  (Satprem normally meets Mother at 10 A.M., but this has progressively been put back to 10:30 A.M.,
  and this morning, the secretaries left at 10:45 A.M. Over the past year Satprem's "conversations" with
  Mother have been growing more and more sparse, as this Agenda is witness to, the entire time being
  taken up by "very urgent" or "very important" communications. This situation will keep worsening till
  the end, when Mother, overwhelmed, will only be able to see Satprem a few moments, after twelve.
  Then the door will be closed.)
  --
  mechanical trouble, and only the middle remains. The conversation was about an experience of
  Mother's; she described the place in which Satprem usually "rests" at night and from which he draws
  the atmosphere of his present book: a place very harmonious in color and substance. Then Sujata tells
  --
  are there all the time, all the time - marvels. So then, maybe that's what made me go to that place
  [where Satprem rests] and that's what (turning to Sujata) gave you your dream. And that's certainly
  what made me have that experience.... I didn't particularly notice music, but it's an extremely
  --
  What does he write?
  [Satprem reads an endless letter:] He asks, "Should I sell my car for less than 35,000 rupees? Can
  
  --
  made me ill.... They don't have the strength to resist: it's the current of the outer world and they don't
  52In that letter which he never sent, Satprem ingenuously tried to make the secretaries understand that these conversations
  with Mother might have import for the whole world, and that if Mother was an hour late for her conversations with Satprem
  and tired by a heap of trifles and petty personal matters, the atmosphere was not conducive for her to recapture the thread of
  her experience. But Satprem clearly saw the uselessness of stressing these obvious facts and saw that he would have quite
  simply been assumed to be indulging in "self-promotion." So be it. (This footnote was written in 1966.)
  --
  Oh, see!
  (Satprem reads the Talk,
  then Mother comments)
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem suggests the publication in the Ashram's Bulletin of Mother's recent
  comments on the Aphorisms, including the vision of the birds turning into human "opinions," omitting
  --
  September 21, 1966
  (This conversation came about following a personal question of Satprem's, who asked Mother if he
  should not refuse an amount of money offered to him by the French government: a war pension.
  Satprem's intention was to refuse that pension, not wanting to feel tied to any government and any
  country for any amount of money. Mother advised him to accept that money for the divine Work.)
  --
  me, I don't lose any sleep over it! But the fact is there.
  (Mother holds out a rose to Satprem) This is peace, my child. It's peace. (Laughing) Oh, if you
  knew how peaceful it is here! (gesture to the forehead and above) I say things, but ultimately... they are
  --
  October 8, 1966
  (The conversation is about Satprem's forthcoming birthday. We publish it despite its personal
  character, for the "rhythmic" significance of birthdays is of general interest and there is always, as
  --
  it's a graph. There is a point where the two curves haven't connected.
  63By the Body of the Earth or the Sannyasin. Satprem complained of difficulty in writing the end of his book.
  
  --
  it, they aren't aware of what goes on inside them.
  (Then Mother gives Satprem
  flowers. She looks weary.)
  --
  Me, I have nothing to say, nothing - absolutely in a daze, I am dazed.
  (Mother suddenly suggests that Satprem
  enter her room directly at 10:15 on the
  --
  are still there.)
  (Satprem, in disbelief:) I come in around 10:15?
  You could come straight upstairs, we'll see what happens!
  --
  It's the first time it has been so complete: it was no longer at all my hands that were playing, no
  longer at all. It's the first time. I don't know if it will be like that for the 30th [Satprem's birthday].
  ***
  --
  (Mother hands the
  photos to Satprem)
  66Satprem does not remember the effect of his sudden intrusion at 10:15 - probably none, or else not a pleasant one,
  because the experiment was not repeated.
  --
  it with the photo; the next minute it would no longer have been there. He is almost saying something,
  expressing something (Mother shows Satprem the photo): see the mouth. It's very curious.
  It's amusing.
  --
  November 9, 1966
  (Satprem reads Mother a few excerpts from "The Sannyasin," in particular the scene in which the
  Sannyasin is standing with his back to the temple door, having lost both his "spiritual heaven" and the
  --
  I don't know, I haven't read Pavitra's book On Love. Have you? Is the point clear in his book?
  (Satprem makes a face)
  It's not clear?
  72See Agenda I, November 20 and 22, 1958.
  73Satprem found the following note among Mother's papers: "When people speak of sexual desire, instead of giving it the
  noble name of 'love,' they should simply call it 'vital cannibalism.'"
  --
  But for those who are on the right side, of course it's actively with them.
  (Mother gives Satprem flowers)
  You don't understand the Grace?... You'll see, one day you will understand it.
  --
  November 19, 1966
  (Mother holds out a small rose to Satprem:)
  I have a lovely rose for you. Do you know what it is?
  --
  not feelings, it's... "something." And I know. And it doesn't at all come in an objective way, I mean,
  it's not as if someone were telling me, "Satprem is going to receive his pension," not at all: it's a
  "movement of life" in which Satprem, pension, government, all mingle (Mother turns one hand inside
  the other in a sort of fluid intermingling). It lives, it takes shape, and afterwards I say to myself, "Oh,
  --
  (Then Mother takes up the translation of a passage from "Savitri." Curiously enough, this very
  morning, before going to see Mother, Satprem looked at this passage and thought of two possible ways
  to translate a particular word.)
  --
  79"...Of all factors, mental arrogance is the most unfavorable to the action of the divine Grace."
  80Satprem thought of en cachette for "unseen" (literally, "on the sly" or "stealthily").
  
  --
  (Mother looks very tired. This morning she did not eat anything nor did she receive anyone. When
  Satprem comes in, she gives him flowers and soup packets received from Israel:)
  But you are the one who doesn't eat!
  --
  December 7, 1966
  (Mother hands Satprem a flower called "Grace," then a second "Grace.")
  Would you like a second Grace?... There's never too much of it!
  --
  Have you finished your book?
  (Satprem, in a glum tone:) Yes.
  Oho! That's not a very forceful "yes"!
  Is it Saturday you're going to read it to me?
  (Satprem makes a face)
  Oh, that too!
  --
  December 20, 1966
  (Letter to Mother from Satprem)
  Mother,
  --
  rest is secondary.
  Signed: Satprem
  
  --
  December 31, 1966
  Mother gives Satprem
  a red rose:
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem proposes he might himself translate a certain text in order to save Mother's
  time. Mother smilingly refuses and wants to do it herself:)
  --
  ***
  (After Satprem has read to Mother the conversation of September 30, in which she envisaged the
  transition from man to the new being.)
  --
  ***
  (In the afternoon, Mother sent the following note to Satprem, like a continuation of the morning's
  conversation, meaning that the integral realization, that of the new being, will only be possible when...)

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  --
  4"Surtout pas de docteurs! il faut laisser ce corps en paix." Mother added this first sentence in a slip of paper she sent to
  Satprem after the conversation (see facsimile).
  5It may be noted that Mother used the French word "injure" (normally meaning "insult") because she heard the English
  --
  
  see Satprem."
  It's interesting.
  --
  but didn't have the time, I was already terribly late; then came very clearly from Sri Aurobindo, "On
  Saturday, when Satprem is here."
  I forgot to tell you at first!
  --
  January 18, 1967
  (Satprem asks Mother what he should do with the text of the "instructions" of January 14 which
  Mother gave in the event of her going into a long period of trance.)
  --
  That's how "injury" came.
  (Satprem:) In the text of those "Instructions" [in the event of cataleptic trance], you also use the
  word "injure"; you say that in that trance state, your body will have to be kept "a l'abri de toute
  --
  February 11, 1967
  (Regarding Mother's "Agenda." Satprem is sorting out a huge stack of files.)
  ...Now that bits are coming out in the Bulletin, lots of people are beginning to be very, very interested
  --
  February 22,1967
  (Mother gives Satprem the text of an answer:)
  "Why is the choice imperative?"
  --
  February 25, 1967
  (Mother gives Satprem a rose the color of fire.)
  Do you think Nature will ever invent something better than this?... I don't think so.
  --
  Yes, yes! Exactly. Exactly.
  The perception of beings, of... [Satprem meant seagulls over the sea, trees, the pretty sunshine on
  the earth].
  --
  wonder (laughing) what may happen with what's in the thing, what kind of circuit?!
  (Mother holds Satprem's hands
  in hers for a long time)
  --
  March 15, 1967
  The roses are open now (Mother holds out a rose to Satprem), but this one has a magnificent color.
  Beautiful, isn't it?
  --
  participate only if one is per-fect-ly peaceful and calm and translucent.
  (Mother takes Satprem's hands and
  keeps looking at him for a long time)
  --
  March 25, 1967
  (Satprem reads out to Mother an "old" conversation dating from... two weeks ago.)
  ...It's gone. As soon as it's said, it's gone and away. When things are read back to me, I don't remember
  --
  There's still a lot to do, quite a lot! (Mother laughs)
  26Mother received Satprem an hour late.
  
  --
  April 3, 1967
  Mother holds out a paper to Satprem:
  
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother gives Satprem roses and a garland of flowers called "adoration")
  
  --
  Do you want this?
  (Satprem accepts unenthusiastically)
  Mon petit, when the cells get into this state, it's wonderful, you can't imagine! It changes life complete-ly. They are like that: a sense of wonder at the first Contact. "Is it possible? Can it be that
  --
  
  (Satprem, as usual, complains about his totally unconscious nights)
  There has been for some time a deliberate will not to leave the body. In the morning, when I emerged
  --
  April 13, 1967
  (A note from Mother to Satprem, who is in a bad mood)
  Satprem,
  We're
  --
  April 22, 1967
  (Mother gives Satprem a letter and newspaper cutting she has just received from America about LSD.
  There is also the photo of a poster inviting people on a "trip.")
  --
  April 29, 1967
  Mother gives Satprem
  a pink lotus bud:
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother asks for news of Satprem, who is not too well physically or otherwise.)
  ...I have only one remedy left for everything. But it's active!
  --
  May 3, 1967
  (Mother gives Satprem a new booklet, brown-colored and with its title in golden letters: "God")
  I have a very sweet little story: The day before yesterday, people came (yesterday morning, I saw fiftyfive people in the room over there... fifty-five! The day before, there were a little fewer, but maybe
  --
  (Mother files her note on "goodwill" after deciding she would give it for publication in "Mother India."
  Satprem remarks that it's a pity for the "Bulletin.")
  Oh, (laughing) I can make as many as you like for you! It comes like that - something having fun.
  --
  eyes and you see all sorts of things. It's not always pretty. It's the kind of dreams you have. You've had
  46A few weeks earlier, Satprem had written a letter to Mother in which he bitterly complained that he never saw anything.
  
  --
  all honesty that I said, "But why doesn't he see? He should see." Then, the first time I met Sri
  Aurobindo (that is, immediately afterwards), I said to him, "Satprem wants to see." He answered me,
  "He sees, but without knowing it. But he sees."
  --
  There.
  (Mother takes Satprem's hands)
  
  --
  May 10, 1967
  (Satprem reads Mother an old Playground talk of May 23, 1956, in which Mother suddenly asked
  various questions about the pronunciation of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs.)
  --
  he's made contact again with such ardor, such enthusiasm! He has just sent this card from Riga, in
  Latvia - he intended to go to Russia (Mother hands the card to Satprem):
  "Greetings. I remember your marvel. I spoke of our divine Master and of your sweetness
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads out a text from the Agenda, which he proposes to publish in the next Bulletin with
  the omission of a few passages.)
  --
  Words, words, words....
  (Satprem protests)
  
  --
  May 30, 1967
  (Mother gives Satprem a soup packet from Israel)
  Poor Israel...
  --
  ***
  (At the end, the conversation turns to Satprem's health and a certain hemoptysis.)
  ...Tell your cells not to make a drama and you'll see! If you know how to tell them...
  --
  destined to decide the fate of our civilization?"
  74See Satprem's article in Addendum.
  
  --
  ADDENDUM
  (We venture to publish here a text written by Satprem on June 24, 1967, despite its daring or extreme
  predictions, for it may hold a grain of truth that time will reveal, and above all because it is obviously
  --
  towards the larger triumph of the Truth.
  Satprem
  24 June 1967
  --
  This morning, at 4: 30 when I got up, I remember I thought, "Well, here is something interesting to tell
  Satprem." And now it's all gone!...
  
  --
  A demonstration. But it can't be explained. And it began again just now, but instead of being with me
  alone, it was what I might call a collective demonstration (gesture between Mother and Satprem), I
  mean it had to do more particularly with you.
  --
  July 12, 1967
  (Mother had asked Satprem to listen for her to a recording of European music.)
  That screaming soprano was quite simply abominable. Even Schubert's music, even Haydn's trio
  --
  ***
  (At the end of the conversation, Mother shows Satprem a note she wrote the same morning:)
  "Instead of excluding each other, religions should complement each other."
  --
  ***
  (A little later, about a spelling mistake Satprem points out to Mother:)
  It's the infinitive, here, Mother!
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to Satprem reading from the notebook of a disciple who asks questions on the
  soul or "psychic being.")
  --
  
  (Mother gives Satprem the text of the three letters she sent to the teacher on the question of
  examinations at the School:)
  --
  July 26, 1967
  (Mother, laughing, holds out to Satprem a note she has just written:)
  "The goal we aim at is immortality. Of all habits, death is certainly the most inveterate!"
  --
  inside.
  A part of your atmosphere (gesture above Satprem's head) is absolutely, absolutely one, like that,
  without any difference.
  --
  I told you I was in constant touch with the School's teachers. A "conference" is going on, and here is
  this (Mother holds out a paper to Satprem). There is an interesting point:
  "Your difficulty comes from the fact that you have still the old belief that in life, there are
  --
  ***
  (Mother reads Satprem a quotation from Sri Aurobindo:)
  "To be perpetually reborn is the condition of material immortality."
  --
  August 5, 1967
  (Mother gives Satprem a quotation from Sri Aurobindo.)
  "I have never known any will of mine for one major event in the conduct of the world
  --
  ***
  (Mother listens to Satprem reading out from the notebook of a disciple who regularly asks questions.)
  "Sweet Mother, it is said that the good and the true always triumph, but in life, one often sees the
  --
  ***
  (A little later, regarding Mrs. Z, the Christian sympathizer of the Ashram who has paid Satprem
  several visits and was going to become somewhat... unwieldy.)
  --
  September 3, 1967
  (Regarding Auroville's beach, where Satprem now often goes in the evening for a stroll. The beach is
  some four miles from Pondicherry.)
  --
  It's almost like a flame, but not dazzling; and it gives the sense of a force - a really all-powerful
  force. He was there like this (gesture between Mother and Satprem), between the two of us, with his
  hand outstretched (it was all the same color), and held in it was a cube. And that cube was all those
  --
  I have a nasty little story to tell you.... The other day, I forget when, F. met Mrs. Z, who told her (she
  too was in a concentration camp), "I would like..." (word for word) "I would like Satprem to go back to
  the concentration camp to see if his reaction now would be different!" F. was so indignant that she
  --
  At the end of the conversation,
  Mother gazes at Satprem
  for a long time:
  --
  September 16, 1967
  (Regarding a rather painful letter Satprem has received from the same very Catholic lady.)
  Yes, the first impression was... painful, then I took a good look; and at bottom, the whole trouble comes
  --
  he was conscious; I don't know if he was conscious mentally, but in any case it's interesting, you can
  read (Mother holds out a newspaper cutting to Satprem).
  Vatican City, September 26
  --
  what you met?... All right. He has written two letters, one to me and one to the prior of his monastery,
  which he sends for me to read. The two letters together are rather interesting (Mother gives Satprem the
  first letter):
  --
  October 5, 1967
  (From Satprem to Mother)
  Sweet Mother,
  --
  With love
  Signed: Satprem
  
  October 7, 1967
  (Satprem describes his meeting with the monk.)
  ...But he talked with Pavitra, and he said he is interested in the quest for the "inner divine," that's what
  --
  
  (Mother then holds out to Satprem
  a peculiar rose, which in a few petals seemed
  --
  (Sujata gives Mother a flower called "New Birth.")
  (To Satprem) Tell me, what's a new birth?
  Being radically different.
  --
  It was amusing, but very interesting.
  (Mother gives her note to Satprem) But water from the flowers fell on it, so it's half erased!
  The danger with all those people is that they want to codify things.
  --
  
  There was here (gesture between Mother and Satprem), like that, one of those kinds of lamp stands,
  like the ones they make with snakes, you know - but it was high, this high (gesture about five feet). It
  --
  (The conversation begins an hour late. Sujata gives Mother flowers called "Transformation.")
  Two for you (to Sujata), two for you (to Satprem), and one for me.... It's to prompt the body to
  transform itself! (Mother slips a flower through her buttonhole) It tries its best, people don't leave it
  --
  I'll give you one, but you must keep it carefully....
  (Satprem:) Basically, it's the water of life that makes things rot.
  Yes, it's water. Edelweiss doesn't die, one which I had was intact after ten years. When things are
  --
  ***
  (The rest of the time is spent in meditation. Towards the end, Satprem feels a little guilty that he hasn't
  made Mother speak:)
  --
  Mother with a certain bewilderment.) No, I said just before that when I want to see clearly, precisely, I
  close my eyes and see quite clearly. I do it spontaneously (I noticed it because Satprem asked me what
  was going on). And since I can't hear, maybe if I didn't listen and went within myself, like that, I would
  hear? - There must be a trick!
  (Satprem:) It depends on the consciousness with which one reads to you.
  Yes. Oh, some people speak almost in a low voice and I hear them perfectly well. Others howl and I
  --
  Ah, let me show you a photo that was taken the other day, on P.'s birthday (Mother holds the photo out
  to Satprem).
  It's not me looking here: it's when I give a "bath of the Lord."
  --
  ***
  (For Satprem's birthday, Mother gives three cards which all depict ships, as well as a metal tray on
  which a ship is also painted.)
  --
  It's a process of inner fashioning of your consciousness.
  And what happened at the end [of the first version of the Sannyasin, which Satprem rejected] was
  simply because the time of the final transmutation (I don't know how to explain... or transformation -
  --
  (The conversation turns to Mother's Playground Talks - "Questions and Answers" - from 1950 to
  1958. Satprem is preparing their first publication and complains that he cannot trace the original
  texts:)
  --
  took only my face. Two of them I find very good.... They're not enlarged, they're just as they were
  taken (Mother shows Satprem the photos).
  I don't know, at each darshan I feel as if I am a different person, and when I see myself like this,
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem asks Mother about the conversation of November 22 - the turning point of 1962 and the
  awakening of the cells' consciousness - which he would like to publish in the forthcoming February
  --
  (Laughing) All this hangs together in a marvelous balance!
  (Satprem reads out the note)
  
  --
  (We publish here the second series of the "Prayers of the Consciousness of the Cells,"146 as Mother
  gave them to Satprem in 1970, collected under this title.)
  

Agenda_Vol_9, #The Mothers Agenda, #The Mother, #Integral Yoga
  author class:The Mother
  class:Satprem
  
  --
   1981 Institut de Recherches volutives, Paris.
  Rendered into English under the direction of Satprem
  
  --
  they are corrupting him or drawing God knows what onto him - does Mother approve of this?..."
  3The day Satprem wrote this letter, Mother saw him as if seated between the two violet wings of a V of victory (see Agenda
  8 of February 4, 1967). See in Addendum the text of this letter.
  4This child has already been mentioned in relation with Paul Richard's "reincarnation."
  5Satprem omitted the explanation given by the "high priestess," which was that "the she-monkey caresses its young all over
  the body, including its sex organ, therefore..."
  --
  When you look at her you don't get that feeling.
  Oh, (poking fun at Satprem) but that's superficial, it's a superficial vision!
  (silence)
  --
  ADDENDUM
  (A letter from Satprem to a friend on the "Yoga of sexuality.")
  January 28, 1967
  --
  I will try to find one or two passages from Sri Aurobindo to give you his point of view.
  Signed: Satprem
  
  --
  January 20, 1968
  (Mother gives Satprem a soup packet she hasn't even tasted.)
  You don't have the time to try it?
  --
  January 24, 1968
  (Satprem prepares to leave Mother at the usual time, around 11:30.)
  It's going to be a hard month...
  --
  
  let the two of you [Satprem and Nolini] judge, it's for you to decide, it's the same to me!
  
  --
  ***
  (After Satprem has gone back home, Mother sends him this note:)
  This is what I tried to say this morning:
  --
  attempt. How to keep the form without the ego's presence? - that's the problem. Well, that's how it
  15Satprem notes that it is not anguish, but rather a sensation that the life of aspiration is more important than the dissolution.
  
  --
  (In the weeks preceding February 21, her ninetieth birthday, Mother has had hardly any time to eat or
  sleep, spending hours to see people, work, write letters and so on. Satprem remarks that she does not
  look tired.)
  --
  Happy birthday, Mother!
  (Mother takes Satprem's hands)
  
  --
  Mother holds out a flower
  to Satprem:
  
  --
  March 23, 1968
  (Satprem read Mother the end of the Playground Talk of June 3, 1953, about Karma: "In all religions,
  when people said that [the consequences of Karma were strict] and gave such absolute rules, as for
  --
  (Then Mother goes into a long contemplation which will last almost till the end. At one point, she
  opens her eyes and looks at Satprem as though something were taking place or she were about to say
  something....)
  --
  
  For me, it [what Mother felt in Satprem] was expressed through a sort of very strong, very luminous
  balance, and... oh, with an extraordinary peace.
  --
  would be interesting if he could have a glimpse of the direction in which we're going.
  (Mother listens to Satprem
  read out the last conversation)
  --
  Yes, not a good letter.... I have two things: one letter from P.L. and one about him. Here is P.L.'s
  [Satprem reads a letter in which P. L. writes that he fell ill as soon as he came back to the Vatican,
  that he could not see the Pope, is in despair, incapable, etc.].
  --
  It's a letter from Monsignor R., a friend of P.L. He is a billionaire, and it's P. L., in fact, who
  manages this Monsignor's billions. He wrote to J. [P.L.'s friend], saying this [Satprem reads a
  letter in which Msgr. R. asks J. to give P.L. urgent help by receiving him in her Pondicherry home
  --
  Your P.L. is coming back!
  What an avalanche of telegrams! And it's not over: here's one more [Satprem reads Mother a
  telegram in which P. L. announces a mysterious "new fact" and implores to be allowed to stay with
  --
  vain to remember). I don't remember the words.
  38A few weeks later, Satprem too will be strongly affected for a long time.
  39See Agenda 4, December 31, 1963, p. 434.
  --
  (There has been a rumor going about that Mother was "unwell," and indeed she has not seen anyone.
  When Satprem comes into her room, the lower part of Mother's face is very much swollen, apparently
  because of an "infection." She has been unable to eat anything.)
  --
  ***
  (Towards the end, Satprem comes back to the Vatican affair.)
  Isn't this whole thing going to recoil on them?
  --
  
  42Just as Mother uttered those words, Satprem had a very distinct impression that Mother was saying, "It's ME, over there,
  to be transformed."
  --
  May 18, 1968
  (Satprem expresses his surprise at the speed with which Mother has been cured of the swelling, without
  a trace. Mother laughs.)
  --
  (Mother holds out four sheets,
  which Satprem reads:)
  
  --
  ***
  (Towards the end, Mother asks Satprem about a sore on his back.)
  Does it prevent you from sleeping?
  --
  unfolding....
  46The day after Satprem mentioned it to Mother, the sore had healed.
  47Refer to "I don't care" in the preceding conversation.
  --
  Let's see.
  [Satprem reads:] "It is feast day in the Vatican. St. Peter's Square is jammed with people.
  The Pope's procession begins; I have witnessed it many times, very near the Pope, next to the
  --
  a huge elephant carrying someone. Who is this someone? Sweet Mother? No, it's Pavitra....
  Not at all, it's Satprem! No, it's the School's director.... The more I try to fix my attention on
  him, the more his face changes, as in a kaleidoscope. In reality, I have difficulty fixing my
  --
  and finally comes up to the Pope's throne, in which he sits down....
  "On his head sits the same person as before: Sweet Mother? Pavitra? Satprem? A teacher? I
  do not know. I cannot make out the person's body, only his changing face.... All of a sudden,
  --
  They need to be shaken a little, oh, they're goody-goody!
  And that's not all. It seems I am giving "classes" to the two of you [Sujata and Satprem]....
  Classes!
  --
  I've been given the continuation of T.F.'s class about death. There are new notes.
  (Mother holds out a paper to Satprem)
  
  --
  June 12, 1968
  (Following a letter in which Satprem had complained about the difficulty he had writing - or
  rewriting, rather - his "Sannyasin," and about the complete unconsciousness of his sleep.)
  --
  ***
  Satprem reads Mother
  a letter of Sri Aurobindo:
  --
  supramental vision.... I MATERIALLY see all sorts of things, which aren't visible to others (Mother
  looks around Satprem). But it's materially.
  A funny state.
  --
  Not since the war.
  55When Satprem tried to "tell them," they attempted to censor this Agenda and expelled Satprem through a registered letter.
  Today in 1995, Mother's Agenda is read in the Ashram only on the sly and is banned at the School.
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Mother shows Satprem a letter
  that has been opened and sealed again.)
  --
  I hope he hasn't written anything compromising!
  Look at all this mail! (Mother holds out to Satprem a stack of letters)
  Congo... Fiji... Germany... France... America...
  --
  ***
  Satprem reads a text
  of Sri Aurobindo:
  --
  round me! (Mother laughs)
  See, here's his letter (Satprem reads): "I pray the Mother to record a message for my radio on
  'integration and unity of India'...."
  --
  replied.) But then, they didn't understand anything. And here are their new questions:
  (Mother holds out a letter to Satprem)
  
  --
  (Mother is running a temperature, breathing with difficulty and coughing. She hasn't eaten anything.
  She receives Satprem lying on her couch.)
  It's the same thing going on....
  --
  There's a letter from Msgr. R. to you. It was sent through J. Here's what he writes J.: "Let me first
  thank you - once again - for Satprem's book on Sri Aurobindo. I have finished reading it. This
  book has and will have a considerable influence on my life. Secondly, I thank you for the help you
  --
  It's not very exciting, but anyway!
  (Mother laughs, and Satprem reads)
  
  --
  July 20, 1968
  (Mother looks better, although she is still coughing. Satprem, on the other hand, has caught a fever.)
  It comes from there [the Vatican], it's the same origin as with me. The first time I was on my guard, but
  --
  intended to reply to her today, but today I don't have any voice. If you'd like to read it... (Mother holds
  out a letter to Satprem).
  "I have the feeling of a division and a confusion in my mind, and probably between
  --
  (silence)
  67Satprem assumes that the immense being was the "That" he was turning to in preference to Mother's person. And "That"
  came and showed him his place.
  68Satprem was beginning to climb down from his "heights." It was none too soon.
  
  --
  ***
  As Satprem
  is about to leave:
  --
  July 24, 1968
  (Satprem had written to Mother that he still had a fever.)
  
  --
  gone!..." That's odd!
  (Mother gives Satprem a mock slap for
  his impertinent "That's odd")
  --
  69He never came; every time he tried to, he fell seriously ill....
  70For six years until 1973, Satprem had to fight before he could obtain the first publication of French translations of Sri
  Aurobindo's works. And when those publications were finally obtained, the Ashram's new authorities accused him of
  --
  Take from Sri Aurobindo, not from me! Everything from Sri Aurobindo.
  (Satprem proposes the following text:)
  
  --
  (Mother remains very tired. She nevertheless listens to a long paper on Auroville, which she rejects,
  and prepares with Satprem a note summing up the ideal of this future city:)
  "For millennia, we have been developing outer means, outer instruments, outer techniques
  --
  August 7, 1968
  (As Satprem goes upstairs to see Mother, he meets the doctor coming downstairs, who informs him that
  Mother has chest pain and her heart is in poor condition. Mother is sitting on her couch, very pale.)
  We have to do the translation of the message for the 15th of August.
  I chose this (Mother holds out a paper to Satprem):
  "One needs to have a calm heart, a settled will, entire self-abnegation and the eyes
  --
  August 10, 1968
  (Mother looks a little stronger: she remains standing while giving flowers to Satprem and Sujata.
  Satprem gives Mother the offering of his pension.)
  Satprem has become a rich man! (Mother laughs)
  Is there nothing we had to do?... I am sure I had to show you something... which I had to do with
  --
  
  75Satprem will not see Mother again for eighteen days. This is the second great turning point in her yoga, after that of 1962.
  
  August 22, 1968
  (Satprem has not seen Mother since August 10. According to the doctor, her heart is weak, she does
  not eat anymore and can no longer remain standing. Yet she appeared for five minutes at the balcony
  --
  beside her, ready to support her. She looked so pale in her silver cloak. This morning, August 22, she
  has sent Satprem a note and soup packets, remembering even his material needs. Her handwriting is
  quite changed.)
  --
  August 28, 1968
  (Mother receives Satprem and Sujata in her new, low armchair made of rosewood, which will remain
  till the end. She no longer gets up to fetch flowers for them.)
  --
  No, not at all!
  (Mother gives Satprem soup packets)
  
  --
  And I have others out of which, if you organize them, you can, I think, prepare the "Notes on the Way."
  The "Apropos" is very brief (Satprem reads out):
  "The doctor recommends not to tire oneself. What is it that tires? - Only that which is
  --
  Then, here, I have several notes, I don't know what it is....
  (Mother holds out papers to Satprem)
  
  --
  explain; it wasn't a thought: it was kinds of visions, of perceptions. Then I asked him questions, and he
  noted them down (Mother holds out to Satprem a typewritten note). He only noted my questions, not
  his replies.
  --
  are no more ordeals! Only the body needs them.
  (Then Satprem reads Mother the "Notes on the Way" put together from the last conversation. Mother is
  unsure whether publishing those experiences is appropriate.)
  The Bulletin goes everywhere, you understand.... It's not a personal question, it's from the point of
  view of the work and the effect it will have. Anyhow, I let the two of you [Satprem and Nolini] decide
  whether or not it's appropriate for the work.
  --
  (Nolini) So we'll publish it, won't we?
  (Satprem) We could also ask Pavitra?
  Pavitra will say, "As Mother says"!...
  --
  ***
  (Then Satprem reads Mother an old Playground Talk of July 1, 1953, in which Mother speaks about
  death. Mother begins by asking for the end to be cut....) (text of the Talk)
  --
  
  Strangely, I had a very odd impression [while Satprem was reading], as if... you were reading here
  (gesture at ground level).
  --
  (silence
  Satprem prepares to leave)
  
  --
  ***
  (Soon afterwards, Satprem reads Mother a Playground Talk
  
  --
  84This was going to last for months.
  85Before going to sleep, Satprem saw all kinds of suggestions pass by, in particular one showing Sujata thrown down into a
  water tank that is being dug in the garden. A few hours later, Sujata was thrown down very near the water tank, against an
  --
  (Sujata) After two days in bed, I get tired of the bed!
  (Satprem) But I have trust - entirely.
  Naturally! But still, it mustn't last, we've had enough, haven't we?
  --
  September 25, 1968
  (Mother gives Satprem a flower called "Transformation.")
  I give you the right one.
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to Satprem's reading of the previous conversation, in which she spoke of the
  "opacity" of Matter which prevents it from manifesting the Consciousness, and of the "transparent" but
  --
  88Following that vision, V. heard an awesome voice, saying from behind that red light: "This time She will pull through,
  but I will come back in 1972 and that will be the last battle." Satprem deliberately did not repeat this baleful prophecy to
  Mother, so as not to concretize it.
  --
  I've received questions from T.F.'s class. One of them I started answering.... They're rather stupid,
  those questions (Mother hands papers to Satprem).
  "How does one become conscious of the physical being?"
  --
  October 5, 1968
  (Mother is unwell again. Satprem could not see her for a week.)
  Everything is in a daze.
  --
  When you spoke to me last time, I took the thing... (gesture of pulling out an invisible dark point from
  Satprem's atmosphere).
  I can't speak; as soon as I speak, I start coughing. But if you like, we can remain quiet.
  --
  Oh, Mother, listen...
  (Mother takes Satprem's hands) You're still warm.
  No, no, I'm quite fine!
  --
  So there.
  (Mother looks at Satprem
  with "those eyes"...)
  --
  (before leaving,
  Satprem lays his forehead
  on Mother's knees)
  --
  October 30, 1968
  (Regarding the message Mother has given to Satprem for his birthday.)
  
  --
  November 6, 1968
  (Regarding a visit paid by Satprem to Bharatidi, an old French disciple, at the Vellore hospital where
  she is to be operated on. Bharatidi, a member of France's Far East College, is well known for her
  --
  As for me, I was full of her.
  Oh! (Laughing) Maybe she... (gesture of entering Satprem). It's quite possible! Quite possible. I told
  her, "If you like, that whole part of your mind which I like very much can stay in me." I told her, "If
  --
  
  It's here that this consciousness is (Mother touches Satprem's chest). This (gesture pointing to the
  mind and above) is just light, light... (immense gesture). But in this body, this consciousness is here
  --
  becoming a perception of every moment. When something apparently abnormal takes place, there is the
  117Soon after Satprem left at the end of the conversation, Mother sent him a line containing the sentence that follows.
  
  --
  There you are.
  119Conversation of November 23. Through the "Notes on the Way" or otherwise Satprem always wanted to make Mother's
  experience known to the Ashram, but did not at the time understand the reasons for her reluctance.
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to Satprem reading an old Playground Talk of July 22, 1953.)
  These are things I would certainly no longer write now!... But anyway, they are true on their level
  --
  ***
  (Then Mother listens to Satprem reading another Playground Talk of 1953.)
  What year is it?
  --
  December 18, 1968
  (Regarding the English translation of the conversation of November 23, 1968, which Satprem got
  Mother to allow for publication in "Notes on the Way.")
  --
  "Your son is with you. If you have the true attitude, you can come into contact with him and feel his
  125A Tantric whom Satprem followed in the past.
  126One lakh = one hundred thousand; one crore = ten million.

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     4 Science
     4 Satprem
     4 questions

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  object:The Great Sense - Sri Aurobindo And The Future Of The Earth
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  Satprem - The Great Sense
  
  --
  
  Satprem
  27th June 1969

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