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The Second Integral Potential Meetup
MOBILE NEXUS
Big Mind Q + A
The Big Mind Process
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THE WAY OF EFFECTIVE ACTION
PSYCHO THERAPY
What is Big Mind meditation?-
Big Mind is a guided meditation where one learns to identify with different parts of the psyche through voice dialogue. This dissects the ego/self into different selves for the sake of reassembling it afterwards into a healed, happy, effective and cohesive whole free from contradictions. Voices include dualistic (eg desire, fear, the skeptic), non-dualistic (eg Big Mind[nothing], Big Heart[everything]) and more.
The process was created by Zen Master Genpo Roshi based on the voice dialogue psycho therapeutic process by Hal and Sidra Stone. It has Jungian Roots because of its reliance on the concept that all our subpersonalities already exist within us. But these subpersonalities can be disowned if they are seen as bad, subpersonalities such as anger. Then since the voice is disowned I cant acknolwedge that I have it, so I may be bothered by others who are that way, or project my anger since it never disappeared it just went covert.
Why Big Mind?
Big Mind creates harmony amongst the self/ego. This allows for integral action free from internal contradiction within the self, for if voices or identities are fragmented, repressed or difficult to identify with or express then there are limits in what we can identify with (be) and thus do. it is also very powerful to become aware of ever-present forms of Spirit such as the Witness and Casual bodies.
One learns to become aware of them, relate to them, identify as them, think and act as them, relate them, integrate them, and perhaps transcend them on and off the cushion.
- learn to recognize major parts of the self and Self
- learn to reown suppressed voices
- learn to stretch ones capacity to take perspectives through identity
How does Big Mind work?
start simple, its easy and natural.
how to do Big Mind?
Big Mind is best done by having a facilitator ask meditators to call upon these voices within themselves then the facilitator asks them questions to help them embody the voices. It is easy and natural with no experience necessary.
passing through the Gateless Gate
pre voice
i am excited to be fascilitating this Big Mind Meditation today. Its easy and anyone can do it, there should be a 100% success rate, so if anyones get stuck just to let me know.
Ill be calling upon different voices, you wont know who I am asking for at first but will understand as I draw out the voice through questions.
exploring and studying the self
to go beyond the self,
a physical shift.
any insight from today can be deepened through meditation and this method
THE BIG MIND PROCESS
this method is very non-threatening, there is no fighting with the ego, because ill lose, i am going to hire and enlist your egos to work for me
the magic word, please
we love to serve, but we dont like being ordered or demanding
the ego is a guardian that can be limiting,
ask the ego to support us, but never go too far away
the ego can even witness the whole thing
no one has to participate
free to join in or free to just observe
no one is being forced to go into anything or beyond anything that they dont want to.
if you play along, because it is a game and fear comes up, i invite you to let the ego come up and take control again
all the responsibility of getting this im putting on your hands
if your not staying up just let me know, you can wave, wink, stand up, whatever just to let me know your falling behind
because what id like to do is have 100% success here today, if you choose, my feelings wont be hurt, it may not be the right day for you
dissect the self in order to understand the self, and hopefully if we have time we will put it back together. so dissect the self, to understand the self to transcend the self.
have any of you thought about questions like "who am I?" or "what is my True Self?" today we will be investigating why that is. Why it is so difficult to grasp any notion of who we are. we can come up with what I do, but struggle to grasp the self, and this is because the Self is ungraspable, it can be experienced but it is changing too quickly to be held solid. We can experience the ungraspable nature, but we cannot grasp it.
to better work with the different aspects of the self, I am going to give them labels, names, that have been found to work, I will choose a label or name and then ask if I can speak to that voice. this comes from a psycho therapeutic technique called Voice Dialogue by Hal and Sidra Stone. Normally it is done one on one for healing purposes but today's Big Mind is less about healing the psyche and more for bringing about an experience of the transcendent. But i will be using some of the psycho therapeutic voices for the purpose of forming a foundation so that it is easier to integrate the experience later.
when i ask to speak to a specific voice in you, I would like you to shift to whereever that voice is seated, and that voice is seated whereever you shift to. dont worry about shifting into the right spot, it is the shift that is important, not where. the physical shift will help to fascilitate a mental shift, to get you used to shifting your perspective. when we stick to one perspective then our view of life and reality is very one dimensional. there more perspectives we can take, the more awareness then better we can understand or see life and reality. This will help us to see that there is no single right perspective. there is only my perspective.
and we tend to this that it makes it right. each perspective is 100% valid but it is not the only one. this applies alot to relationships, we tend to forget that my perspective is not the only perspective. what is very helpful is to be able to move into someone elses perspective and see it through their eyes. so in doing this we are creating that potential.
so when i ask to speak to a voice, and you shift chances are you may not know what I am asking for, unless youve done this before, still make the shift, then i will ask questions to help you gain insight into your new perspective.
i am going to ask to speak to a voice now, and I would like a clear channel only to that voice. I am seperating you from the self now, i would like to speak to the protector.
from now on i would like you to raise your hand
distance you from the self
your not the self
all these years you were the self now your not.
letting go of what is known to experience new, buddhism, zen, psycho therapy
important sayings / who said that? identifying voices.
i want josh to commit to a 10 hour daily practice.
quadrant questions for the voice.
to josh the facilitator:
dont worry, have fun, its so nice for them, its forever both perfect and imperfect.
match the energy of the voice? use emotion to draw it out?
the order to which they are called upon---
from injunctions:
Communication, identity, personality, spirit, cognitive, psycho therapeutic,
- big mind is the witness?
- big heart is God?
- the damaged self cant exist unless theres a vulnerable child, but a vulnerable child could exist without a damaged self?
- tony and I are big fixers and probably why were friends
- the protector tries to protect the damaged self through the vulnerable child but the vulnerable child is always vulnerable? or
General Questions: Q + A Big Mind Q + A
Who are you? What is your function?
which voices should i get to know more?
Specific Questions:
The Inner Voices:
The Controller, The Skeptic,The Vulnerable Child,The Protector,The Damaged Self,The Fixer,The Voice of Desire,The Seeking Mind,Non-Seeking Mind,Big Mind,Big Heart, Yin Compassion,Yong Compassion,The Master,The Fully Functioning Human Being,JoyousMind, Integrated Free Functioning Self, Ying-Yang Big Heart, Dropped-Body Mind, One-Heart Mind, Voice of knowing, voice of not knowing.
Voice of The Inner Child:
I am curiousity, play and wonder. I jump out of bed for I want to do so much. I ask why incessantly and it is the reason for josh's brilliance.
I am also heavily influenced however by desire?
the protector:
the damaged child:
voice of desire:
what do you desire? are you ever satisfied?
animal portion of self?
voice of fear:
why be afraid? what are somethings you fear? (rejection)(failure)(success)(annilhilation)
voice of no-fear:
voice of the controller:
this guy seems similar to some,What is your function? What would you like to control? What is your greatest fear? What do you do for the self? What happens if you dont do your job? Where would the self be with you? Where would humanity be without you? Is your work important?How does the self treat me?Is your work difficult?How does the self feel about you?How do you limit the self?How do others treat/feel about you?
voice of the ego/josh:
who the fuck?
Voice of the doer:
this voice may be opposing to the inner child, who is sometimes a non doer.
i am always doing, sometimes josh is happy with what i am doing. for i sometimes the voice of desire or seeking mind align with me.
Voice of not doing:
the contemplator, philosopher, voice of not-knowing.
Voice of being / non-being:
this voice absorbs qualities I do or dont have: im not sure why yet.
voice of the skeptic:
relates heavily to not knowing.
voice of big heart:
i come naturally from big mind, when i see what, i automatically understand what i must do.
voice of not knowing:
this is the vastness, spaceness, big mind?, witness, the witness never knows?
the voice of knowing:
i know only things in the upper left such as I must do this
this voice always exists. for there are things that i know, when i ask why it becomes what?
the voice of the master:
i want josh to decide and commit to an extensive routine
who objects?
this guy has complete control of all voices. it would probably be useful to 3-2-1 this guy always.
the voice of decider/chooser:
what decisions do i make?
for josh to eat, sleep, masterbate, smoke, read, write, meditate, exercise, chinups, handstand pushups, yoga, pranayam, play castle clash
what decisions have i made before?
to go to work,
sometimes i feel like i have no choice...? who is this?
is the chooser one of desires voices?
how can i say i want to but choose not to?
conscious vs unconscious decisions.
decides all the time.
has a council: belief, desire, josh,
the voice of the seeking mind:
where as the master is perfection the seeking mind seeks perfection:
the voice of the non-seeking mind:
this voice is similar to the master. he is the perfect portion. the part that is intristicly amazing. no need to change me.
Communication, identity, personality, spirit, cognitive, psycho therapeutic,
- big mind is the witness?
- big heart is God?
- the damaged self cant exist unless theres a vulnerable child, but a vulnerable child could exist without a damaged self?
- tony and I are big fixers and probably why were friends
- the protector tries to protect the damaged self through the vulnerable child but the vulnerable child is always vulnerable? or
Anything you don't want to do is a golden thread. Go do BFP. I don't want to, who, the inner child, well fortunately you are the not the captain of this ship. Who wants me to? The fixer? Big mind and heart should I do BFP?
"I can't do it" says the inner child
"I can" says the Master
Big Mind - Main Voices:
The Controller, The Skeptic,The Vulnerable Child,The Protector,The Damaged Self,The Fixer,The Voice of Desire,The Seeking mind, The Non-Seeking Mind
Big Mind,Big Heart, Yin Compassion,Yong Compassion,The Master,, Fully Functioning Human Being
Big Mind Big Heart Book Voices
Dualistic Voices:
protector, controller, skeptic, fear, anger, the damaged self, the victem, the vulnerable and innocent child, the dualistic mind, desire, the seeking mind, the mind that seeks the way, the follower of the way
Non-Dual and Transcendent Voices:
the way, big mind, big heart, yin or feminine compassion, yong or masculine compassion, yin/yong compassion, the master, integrated free functioning human being, great joy, great gratitude and appreciation, the great fool, great joker
Triangles: embracing and going beyond dual and non-dual
the self, the no-self, the unique self (beyond self and no-self), fear, no-fear, true self (beyond fear and no-fear), dualistic mind, non-dual mind, true self (beyond dual and non-dual)
Other Voices:
Joyous Mind, Integrated Free Functioning Self, Ying-Yang Big Heart, Dropped-Body Mind, One-Heart Mind,
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