(The conversation begins forty-five minutes late.)
It’s going well, very well, but… No more clock, that no longer exists! What should take place at 8:30 takes place at 10…. And every day I turn down people, you understand, I turn down lots of them, but they tell me, “You should…”
It’s interesting. The Presence is growing constant, and the contact with people is quite interesting, quite outside… Most of the time I don’t know who the person is—all external things are becoming increasingly shallow and nonexistent—but the inner reactions are very interesting.
I would have to speak for hours to explain all that takes place. But it’s going well.
It’s only a good training, as they say in English, for the body. It must learn—it feels, it very clearly feels what goes on in other bodies—but it must learn to know it WITHOUT being affected, and there’s a difficult little point to sort out. Generally, I have a sensation and perception of the disorder without knowing what it is, and that’s… As soon as I know what it is, I can make the necessary movement for the body not to be affected anymore. But the body must function (this is obvious, it seems more and more certain) without having this sense of personality. And generally, when there is a disorder somewhere, all the rest is affected; you can avoid that, you can isolate what goes wrong, but it’s only a beginning, it’s very, VERY far from a realization. Only, it’s interesting; interesting in the sense that since this [superman] Consciousness has been here, the body has learned a lot of things, a whole lot of things. Really interesting. The body has learned things the mind didn’t know (!), so that’s very interesting—new things, ways of being, manners of being, internal organizations, all sorts of things.
I would have to spend hours every day to narrate what has taken place if we really wanted to keep a historical record of the path….
(silence)
Did you have something to say?
(Satprem presents to Mother the manuscript of The Synthesis of Yoga before sending it to a new publisher in France:)
I pray that there may be no difficulties with J.H. and the former publisher…
We’ll see.
Did J.H. have a sort of free hand to do all he wanted?
He came here while Sri Aurobindo was here, and he asked [to publish Sri Aurobindo’s and Mother’s works], and Sri Aurobindo said, “Let him do as he pleases,” like that!… Everything was all the same to him.
I think we should try, because we must free ourselves from this hold. For the moment, anything published in France from Sri Aurobindo and you is in their grip.
(Laughing) As far as I am concerned, it’s all the same to me! We’ll see, we’re going to see.
I think that J.H. is pressuring us, but there’s no such thing as this monopoly on an author!
It’s blackmail.
We’ll see. (Laughing) We’ll see!
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February 26, 1969
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