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object:1964-10-24a
book class:Agenda Vol 05
author class:The Mother
author class:Satprem
subject class:Integral Yoga
class:chapter


1964 Sat 24 October
October 21, 1964

On the 18th, I had an interesting experience. It was the doctors birthday and I gave him a meditation, and after the meditation, he asked me to write for him what I had seen during the meditation. I had no intention of doing so, but an hour later, that is, at lunch time

To be clear, I should tell the whole story from the beginning.

Before the meditation, I told him, You will let me know when you have finished I dont want to let you know. So I finished what I had to do, then I took a look and said to myself, Lets see now, lets try. And I simply made a formation and put it on him, saying, Now, its over. Then I didnt move, I stayed very quiet. It took about half a minute, even less; he opened his eyes, and then it was over. But when I saw him again at lunchtime, I asked him, When you indicated to me it was over, what did you feel? He told me, I felt (Mother laughs) the Force was going, so I thought it was over Well, his answer showed me the exact difference. He should hew felt. Mother is calling me, Mother is telling me its over, but he felt the Force was going.

Then, as he saw I was talking to him, he took the opportunity to ask me, I would really like to have visions. I answered him all that had to be answered, and I told him that, in the last analysis, its only the Lord who decides when we should have visions, when we shouldnt have them, when we are making progress, when we arent, and so on. Then, in the most hypocritical tone (laughing), like someone who says something to be polite but doesnt believe a word of it, he said, Oh, then we are indeed fortunate, because we have the Lord among us. I pretended to believe he was sincere, and I answered him, No, no, no! You cant say that, its not possible I AM NOT the Lord! And I explained a little the consciousness I have of the Lord, I said, You shouldnt think I am the Lord (in my thought, it was: I am not the Lord as YOU imagine Him), because if I were the Lord (Mother smiles, amused), you would have visions and you would be cured.

This took place around 11:30. In the afternoon, usually I take my bath and stretch out a little, a good while, over there. I said to the Lord, And after all, why (laughing) cant I do something for people like this who are really nice? Why cant I work miracles? I asked Him this half seriously, half in jest. Then all of a sudden, it became very serious. All of a sudden, the Presence was very intense and it was very serious. Then l felt something that said in an absolutely positive way (it was translated into words), You MUST NOT have powers. And the total understanding.

You must not have powers.

And it was a world of Incidents of this kind bring about a world of parallels, of experiences and so on. So I began writing (it came, as always, through successive sedimentations). The first sedimentation gave this:

If you approach me in the hope
of obtaining favours, you will be
frustrated, because I have no
powers at my disposal.

It came in French too:

Ceux qui sapprochent de moi avec
lintention dobtenir des faveurs
seront dus, parce que je ne
dispose pas de pouvoirs.

But the true version is this one (I replaced sapprochent with viennent and dispose with dtiens, and I put the present tense), its from the last sedimentation:

Ceux qui viennent a moi avec
lintention dobtenir des faveurs
sont dus, parce que je ne dtiens
pas de pouvoirs.1

And whats almost fantastic is that a whole ARMY OF ADVERSE FORCES WERE REDUCED TO SILENCEimmediately. And the atmosphere was clarified, relieved.

Then, taking a good look, I understood that it is that mixture in peoples thoughts, in peoples feelings, in their approach to spiritual life, which is catastrophic they always want something, they always demand something, they always expect something. In fact, its a perpetual bargaining. Its not the need to give yourself, not the need to melt into the Divine, to disappear into the Divineno: they try to take, to obtain what they want.

And for several hours (it lasted several hours, from that moment till night) the atmosphere was clear, light, luminousand my body, my body was in such joy! As if it were floating in the air.

Afterwards, everything came backnot everything: something didnt come back, which was definitely settled, but one part of the attacks was clarified.

It was so concrete! I have never felt it so concretely, something seemed to have been completely swept away.

But how is your renouncing or your having no powers sufficient to sweep the adverse forces away?

No, its the fact that I ANNOUNCED it.

That you announced it?

No powers I knew very well I had no powers! And I couldnt have cared less because I understood perfectly well that what is being attempted now isnt miraculous events at all, but the LOGICAL and normal and inevitable CONSEQUENCE of the supramental transformation that is the whole point. That I know and knew, and thats why I didnt even bother about powers; anyway it hadnt even remotely occurred to me that I might work a miracle for the doctor or for this or that other person who approaches me I didnt think about it, it didnt enter my consciousness. Only, on the 18th, through that occasion it entered my consciousness, and so I asked the question to find out why I never thought about it: Why? And I was positively told: You MUST NOT wield powers, because thats not the way things should be done.

I do understand, but

But there was a whole mass of adverse forces (I saw all sorts of things, I dont want to go into details) that were trying to PREVENT me from declaring it. And I had to make an effort (Mother makes a gesture of driving back an obstructing mass) not an effort to fight, but an effort to overcome something, as when you are hemmed in, an effort to break a shell so as to be able to proclaim it. And the minute I did that, the minute I took my paper and started writingpfft! it all went, as if swept away! That, yes, that I understand! Thats the Lords Power. No intermediate power can do thatit was a splendor, you know! As if all of a sudden the physical world had become a solar world, splendid and radiant, and so light, so harmonious! It was a marvel. For hours.

And it made me understand that one of the most considerable obstacles is that deviation of aspiration into a thirst for something. But who doesnt deviate? You see, I always start by looking at myself and at all that I know of this beings conscious life (thats my first observation), and all the images come; well, the self-offering, the perfectly pure aspiration that doesnt expect any resultabsolutely free from the slightest idea of result the aspiration in its essential purity thats not frequent. Its not frequent.

Now the conditions are totally different, but I see the mass of aspirations, of approaches, and I always compare with my attitude towards Sri Aurobindo at that time, when it was he who, to me, represented the Intermediary; well, I understand I understand that the absolutely pure thing, that is, free of all mixture with the ego consciousness (its the ego consciousness), free of all mixture with the ego consciousness, is its still rare.

And its this mixture with the ego consciousness (I am speaking here not from the personal, but from the general standpoint) that, when the words were written, was swept away by something as powerful as a hurricane, without the violence of a hurricanescattered, dissolved, swept away! All those things that were pressing, against which I constantly had to strive in order to move onswept away! And they didnt come back completely.

That state didnt remain (that state was a state of Victory). But things havent come back as they were, and they will never come back as they were. Something has really been clarified. And it isnt a personal, individual question: its something general.

(Mother starts making a fair copy of the last sedimentation:)

You understand, the word favor is deliberate. Its quite deliberate, it really means a favorto be helped in making the necessary progress is all very well, but what they want is the result WITHOUT HAVING TO WALK THE PATH, and thats what is impossible, thats what must not be.

Basically, thats always what men ask of religions; the God of religion is a god who must do them favors: I believe in You, therefore You must do this for me (it isnt formulated so bluntly, but it is like that), It isnt the aspiration to be guided on the path in order to do exactly what should be done for the Transformation to take place. And thats what I was clearly told: It MUST NOT be miraculous powers. The power of the Help is there, fully, of course, but the miraculous power that does things without their being the result of a progress achieved, that must not be.

(Mother goes on copying her note)

And I replaced the future tense with the present, deliberately too, because it isnt something new: it has always been that way; it isnt that I now announce they will be disappointed they have always been disappointed. And asserting this fact is what had the power of dispelling a whole mass of formations: not only formations of beings of the vital or hostile beings, but the false mental formations of human beings.

And here, I wrote: Je ne dtiens pas de pouvoirs [I possess no powers], which is better than Je ne dispose pas de pouvoirs [I have no powers at my disposal]. I had chosen the word dispose in French (chosen, I mean, not mentally), but the word dispose came along with the meaning that the power wasnt at my disposal there is a nuance. I mean that if, by some aberration (it would really be an aberration), if by some aberration I had the desire to work a miracle, I wouldnt be able toit would be contrary to the supreme Will. It isnt that I am deliberately making the choice, No, I wont work miracles I cant, thats not the way, it MUST NOT be like that.

Youll have a lot of difficulty driving that into peoples heads!

Oh, but there has been a dreadful revolt in the Ashrams atmosphere! Not in their conscious mind, but in the subconscienta terrible revolt. In order to write down my declaration, in order to formulate it, I had to overcome a whole mass of things, it was extraordinary! There have even been individual reactions: Then I am going away. I said, Very well, here is the exact proof.

It was interesting.

The doctor himself received it as a blowhe was trembling inside.

No, what should be asked, since were always asking for something, is for the substance to become conscious enough to receive the Force and itself work its own miracle, get cured, or this or that, anyway do the work.

Yes, it mustnt be a favor. Give me the Force to be what I should be, that, yes.

What triggered the whole experience (I forgot to tell you this), when I asked the Lord, Why? Why couldnt I do something for these people who are really nice? is that that story of the past came back, when Sri Aurobindo told me, You are doing a work of the Overmind, you will work miracles that will fill the world with admiration and so on, I told you the story. It came back massively, exactly the same thing: That is not the truth we want. And thats also why I stopped all those pujas of the Mother in October-November, because they all used to come with the idea of getting something: miracles, miracles, miraclesnever for the True Thing. And thats what they expect of God, of course, miracles or favors, illogical and unreasonable things, instead of wanting the Divines progressive advance.

Obviously, thats more difficult.

A literal translation into English of these two French versions gives:

"Those who approach me with the intention of obtaining favors will be disappointed, because I have no powers at my disposal."

"Those who come to me with the intention of obtaining favors are disappointed, because I possess no powers."

***
October 17, 1964


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