Me, I am going through all the phases, but fortunately very quickly, in a few hourstwo, three hourswith new phases. Anyway, rather unpleasant things.
***
(Regarding the cards Mother sends the disciples on their birthdays. Those cards generally contain an indication of the effort or realization to be achieved during the new year.)
What a work it is, you know!
You understand, with people from outside (about 200 people to whom I also send cards, maybe a little more), and all the Ashram people (except for very rare exceptions), it makes about 1,500 cards a year. There are only 365 days; so you can figure out how many cards have to be written every day. D. comes every morning with my breakfast and a list of all the birthdays, and before seeing people or starting my work, I have to satisfy all those birthdays!
It keeps you busy!
But now, I have a new tactic: I have been given some of those alcohol [felt tip] pens that are like paintbrushes; I write with themit takes up a lot of space! So I dont need to say much. And my hand has remained as it was when I used to paint, very self-assured, but my eyes are no longer guiding, so the pen is the guide!
***
Soon afterwards:
The nights are becoming more and more incredible.
Every night, I meet scores of people whom physically I dont know at all, but with whom I have a relationship of a sort of intimacy of work, as with someone you meet daily. And it goes on, and every night its different people. So it makes hundreds and hundreds of people with whom I work.
Its very concrete: concrete like physical life (its in the subtle physical). Concrete in the sense that when you eat, you have the taste of it; when you touch, you have the feel of it; you have the smell. And what stories! Stories fantastic inventions! I dont note all that down because it would take hours and anyway I dont find it worthwhile, but what stories it would make!
Fantastic.
Last night I dont remember at all now, only the impression; and the impression is so strong that after getting up it takes me at least half an hour to emerge from the atmosphere I was in!
All sorts of people. I dont know their names, I dont know their countries, I dont know their languages, yet we communicate very well.
And in the world, things are chaotic, it seems.
Yes, what is this resignation of Khrushchev going to do?1
It looks serious. It would seem to be a revolt, because his son, too, has been kicked out.2
Does it mean a setback?
Oh, a VIOLENT setback.
Its serious.
Things were on the mend between America and Russia (at Chinas expense! It was very funny).
This is going to demolish everything.
(silence)
You get an impression (its precisely the impression I bring back from those activities of the night), the impression of a building crackingall over. Exactly like just before the collapse: it cracks all over.
Besides, if you are completely outside your usual consciousness, your usual reactions, your immediate circle and your daily activity, if you get completely out of all that, and take a look and wonder, Whats going to happen?a black hole, you cant see anything.
And when I say, Whats going to happen? I dont mean whats going to happen on earth, but through what combination of circumstances or sequence of events is the new creation going to take place?
There is an entire part of the earths past history that, ultimately, is totally unknown to us. They have indeed made so-called discoveries, but all those stories, I dont know how much of them is true.
Have they really discovered? I dont know. Do you?
We probably know a little bit of history starting from a particular cataclysm. But how many cataclysms have there been?
Yes, how many cataclysms have there been?
(silence)
Now, for great upheavals men want to do without Natures help. It seems that five nations have atomic bombs, and the bombs of just one of those nations are enough to vrrf! destroy the earth. So if all this (because its new, after all) suddenly gets out of control They dont know how long these things can remain in waiting: if all at once they start explodingcan you see that! (laughing) In all the countries, all the bombs going off at the same time!
Poor earth.
Its worse than a Deluge. All in all, the ways of the Earth were more gentle, Nature was more reasonable.
(silence)
Ultimately, there is only one comfort, its that nothing will ever happen except what has to happen, so This is the consciousness in which I live I dont worry at all, not in the least. But I mean that in actual fact, in an objective manner, we know nothing.
Is it in the wake of cataclysms that the animal became man? That doesnt seem to be very necessary.
No, the disruptive element is the Mind.
I am not aware of what people nowadays think they know, but, for example, when the animal reign dominated the earth, before it appeared and to make it appear, were there ever any catastrophes? Of course, you can vaguely feel an earth that slowly grows colder and is first purely mineral, then plants appear little by littleyou see that very well (Ive even seen very interesting photographs), but is it the fact of growing colder that itself caused catastrophes? Earthquakes, submersions, floods?
Yes, there was a period of great foldings.
There was a movement of the continents, and so, necessarily, the ice sheets melted and the earth was flooded. But this movement of the continents was probably a consequence of the cooling.
Now they say that they have instruments capable of measuring the fact that the continents are still moving. They even said, a few years ago, that many parts of Siberia, which used to be so cold that nothing could be done there, were beginning to be cultivated, and that, necessarily, the tropics arent so warm anymore.
But these things must be coming about very gradually, so its always possible to adapt, people can move to other places.
Yes, it happens over millions of years.
Theres time to move, to change habits.
(silence)
The historical period is very short. Already, as it is, its very uncertain, but very short.
Perhaps the conscious effort of the Vedas came after thousands and thousands of years of research, studies, civilizations that didnt leave any trace? Because they have more or less calculated the time of the coming of man on the eartha few million years, no? How much?
One million, I think.3
Out of that million, we know 5,000 years, you see that!
Poor little ball! How vain we are! We think we know everything.
(silence)
Maybe its into the past that I wander? It may be into the past, it may be into the future, it may be in the present. I have noticed that the costumes arent at all like todays or like anything we know. But when I am there, in the activity, its perfectly natural, you dont notice it: its like something you see every day, you dont notice it. Only when I come back and objectify a little do I say to myself, Well, how odd! (for myself and for others). And I am not at all as I am now, not at all. Moreover, I think I have been what is called different persons at different times. There was even a time when I looked to see if it wasnt that I was identifying with different persons, but there is no identification, I dont feel I am entering someone, nothing like that. But in appearance, I am not always the same person: sometimes I am very tall, sometimes I am small, sometimes I am young, sometimes I am not old but grownup. Very, very different. But there is always the same central consciousness, there is always (Mother collects herself) the Witness who watches on behalf of the Lord and decides on behalf of the Lord. This is the attitude: the Witness who watches that is to say, who sees everything, observes everything, and who decides, either for himself or for others (indifferently), always. That is the fixed point. On behalf of of the something thats eternaleternal, eternally true, eternally powerful and eternally knowing. That is there, through everything. Otherwise, there are different things all the time, different circumstances, different surroundings; there are ways of life that are very, very different. And also, if I wake up at the beginning of the night, its one particular type of thing; if I wake up in the middle of the night, its another type of thing; if I wake up wake up, lets be clear, it isnt coming out of sleep, its returning to the present consciousness. And every time, its different, like coming from different worlds, different times, different activities.
And its clear that one doesnt expect me to remember that doesnt matter at all. It is an ACTION. Its an action, it isnt a knowledge I am givenan action. I am working. Is it I have worked? Is it I am going to work? Is it I am working? I dont know. Probably all three.
And whether I remember or not doesnt matter at all.
(silence)
But there are some points one should nevertheless know and for which there is no certainty. For instance, to what extent does the presence of a physical body [Mothers body], in the world as it is now, act on the Work that is being done? To what extent? Is it indispensable? Is it really indispensable? And if it is, what is the effect and the extent? In other words, are there things that one can do only in a physical body, or can the same things be done anyway (except we dont have the opportunity to chat about it, so!)?
Certainly, there are things one can do only in a body.
Chatting!
No, not chatting! Otherwise, there would be no need for Avatars.
Yes so it seems.
(silence)
But if the stories as we are told them are more or less true, I mean if they have any truth, there isnt ONE Avatar who stayed they all left. Or else theyre hiding well, because No one has ever met any of them, you see. There are people who go looking for them, but no one has ever met them. And their deaths have even been much talked about and often seem to have played a rather important role.
How do you mean no one has ever met them?
Physically.
You see, it is said that Shiva lived on earth, that Krishna lived on earth. As for Buddha and Christ, we know they lived on earthit raised enough rumpus! People even made more fuss about Christs death than about his life. As for Buddha, he professed himself in favor of going away for good (although he didnt actually). But the others? They have of course told the story of Krishnas death but they have told many stories.
Its too old.
But its not old, mon petit!
Old for our history.
Its not old. Obviously, there was no cinema and no newspapers! But newspapers and all paper things cant last very long. In America, they have made underground shelters for booksthey take all the best, then they store it under certain conditions. But what if the earth and the continents move! And anyway, who will be able to read? Even the Assyrian inscriptions, which arent old, are still a riddle. They dont really know: they imagine they know. The names we were taught when we were small and the names todays children are taught are totally different, because they hadnt found the phonetic notation.
Ultimately, if we look at things with the slightest care, even OUTWARDLY, we know nothing.
(Mother goes into a deep meditation)
The next day, October 16, the Chinese exploded their first atomic bomb.
His son-in-law, Alexis Adzhubel, editor of Izvestia.
Some say two or three million years. The first vertebrates appeared 400 million years ago, and the first mammals, it seems, sixty million years ago.
***
October 14, 1964
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