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object:1962-11-07
book class:Agenda Vol 03
author class:The Mother
author class:Satprem
subject class:Integral Yoga
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1962 Wed 7 November
November 7, 1962

(Mother again speaks of the experience of SAT or pure Existence in the background of consciousness, and describes the movement of consciousness needed to enter that state:)

Its somewhat similar to collecting ones thoughts. Its part concentration, part interiorization, and both togetherlike drawing back, but without movement.

After a while, it becomes almost automatic; I do it hundreds of times a day. Its difficult to describe, because the description makes it too concrete. But its a drawing back, an interiorizationa self-gathering. But all those words seem dense, heavy; too material, too heavy. Yet its a very concrete sensation, very concrete, which immediately brings about a kind of stabilizationeverything stops. Everything stops, to the point where even a vibration of pain is stopped, it doesnt exist any more. But when you leave this state, back it comes again. It gets cured only when you persist for some time; otherwise the two might continue to coexist.

The most superficial way of putting it is: to take a step back. But its not that, of course.

And it isnt the same as going within when you want to find your psychic being, for instance. It isnt the same movement. When you go within to find your psychic being, you feel a shift of position; while in this case theres no shiftingyou stay where you are.

You go beyond time, you go beyond space.

I dont know, its so familiar to me that I feel its something everyone can do, but it may very well be difficult, I dont know.

Thats really what it is: to go beyond this present condition and enter a state where everything is stabilized. You cant say immobilized, because that would mean the opposite of movementit isnt the opposite of movement! Its something else. You immediately have the sense of Eternity; not of something endlessly developing, no: everything stops. But everything stops implies the sense of something that moves, yet you no longer have that sense.1 And yet it is Existence, it is BEING: Being, pure Existence; full consciousness without an objectwithout an object of consciousness. Pure Existence without any development.

And its always here, it never leaves you, its always here; you dont have to go off looking for itit is always here. If you start thinking about it, you might say: without that, there can be no world; without that, there can be neither time nor space nor movement nor consciousness nothing. Therefore, it is everywhere.

It doesnt need the Manifestation in order to benot at ALL. But without it, the Manifestation could not be.

In fact, the aim of meditation is to catch hold of that. And any path whatsoever is good, since youre sure to catch hold of it: it is HERE. You dont have to go far to look for itit is right here.

It has become a kind of habit: I am eating a meal, for example, and swallow the wrong way or whatever (not even something violent, just a slightly uneasy sensation in the throat), I do this (gesture of drawing back) for one second, and its finished. Or I am speaking to someone and the right word doesnt come automatically: I just have to do this (same gesture), and there it is. It works for everything. It puts things back in order.

And thats what you have in your meditations. Only (laughing), you wont be happy unless you get out of itunless something dramatic happens! (Mother laughs and laughs) Thats why you complain! Some people work years and years and years to have it just once.

Thats all, mon petit.

"I mean there is no longer 'something that stops.' But there are no words for it. I choose words for their vaguely analogous meaning, but for me they express something altogether different. There are no words for it!

"It's a change of state WITHOUT a change of place.

"This state is clearly outside time and space, that's certain. So you go from the state in time and space to the state where you're outside time and space, and NOT by a change of place ... something! It's something that happens inside, instantaneously. It's not a long passage like the long and gradual movement you experience in meditation, for instance; the passage into Sat isn't a gradual transition from one state to another: it is sudden, like an immediate reversal. But as I just said, there are no words for it; 'reversal' is infinitely too violent for expressing it."

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November 3, 1962


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